Community Council Statement: Jonathan Riddell

elfy elfy at gmx.co.uk
Sat May 30 20:17:07 UTC 2015


On 30/05/15 21:14, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> That Jonathan step down from the KC because according to SABDFL the CC 
> won't work with him anymore
> and since he is still on the KC you can't very well meet can you?
>
>
That's not a pre-condition - that's a fact.

As has been made clear enough for most people to not need reminding of.
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, elfy <elfy at gmx.co.uk 
> <mailto:elfy at gmx.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     On 29/05/15 19:06, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
>>     The only party that has made a pre-condition is the Ubuntu CC the
>>     KC has actually as a body not made any pre-conditions.
>     Which pre-condition would this be?
>
>>
>>     On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Paul Sladen
>>     <ubuntu at paul.sladen.org <mailto:ubuntu at paul.sladen.org>> wrote:
>>
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>>         On Fri, 29 May 2015, the Ubuntu Community Council wrote:
>>         > Kubuntu Council put a condition … before they would agree
>>         to a meeting
>>         >
>>         > we [Ubuntu Community Council] will not be reversing that
>>         decision.
>>
>>         I noticed the juxaposition of these two statements when put
>>         together.
>>
>>         Mutual Mexican stand-offs[1] are unlikely to be conducive to
>>         dialogue,
>>         because there is no safe exit for anyone, let alone all. 
>>         Perhaps it
>>         would make sense for *all* involved to entertain the
>>         possibility of
>>         toning-down previously-made absolute positions in order to
>>         facilite
>>         discussion.
>>
>>
>>         > Community Council will be providing a much more detailed
>>         list of
>>         > incidents, with context, to the Kubuntu Council.
>>
>>         If the ratcheting back of *all* party's pre-conditions were
>>         to occur
>>         at the same time (in advance of the detailed/additional factual
>>         information being prepared here) this might allow
>>         conversation to flow
>>         more freely after sharing.
>>
>>
>>                 -Paul
>>
>>         [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff
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