<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=utf-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/05/15 21:14, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CAGOdq5k+D78DR=k4kuh7ZciDRTFcEigg9ewDBHi7L0B8nbtMZQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div dir="ltr"> <div> <div> <div> <div>That Jonathan step down from the KC because according to SABDFL the CC won't work with him anymore<br> </div> and since he is still on the KC you can't very well meet can you?<br> <br> </div> <br> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> That's not a pre-condition - that's a fact.<br> <br> As has been made clear enough for most people to not need reminding of.<br> <blockquote cite="mid:CAGOdq5k+D78DR=k4kuh7ZciDRTFcEigg9ewDBHi7L0B8nbtMZQ@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 1:10 PM, elfy <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:elfy@gmx.co.uk" target="_blank">elfy@gmx.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span class=""> <div>On 29/05/15 19:06, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote type="cite"> <div dir="ltr">The only party that has made a pre-condition is the Ubuntu CC the KC has actually as a body not made any pre-conditions. <br> </div> </blockquote> </span> Which pre-condition would this be? <br> <div> <div class="h5"> <br> <blockquote type="cite"> <div class="gmail_extra"><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Paul Sladen <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ubuntu@paul.sladen.org" target="_blank">ubuntu@paul.sladen.org</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br> Hash: SHA1<br> <br> On Fri, 29 May 2015, the Ubuntu Community Council wrote:<br> > Kubuntu Council put a condition … before they would agree to a meeting<br> ><br> > we [Ubuntu Community Council] will not be reversing that decision.<br> <br> I noticed the juxaposition of these two statements when put together.<br> <br> Mutual Mexican stand-offs[1] are unlikely to be conducive to dialogue,<br> because there is no safe exit for anyone, let alone all. Perhaps it<br> would make sense for *all* involved to entertain the possibility of<br> toning-down previously-made absolute positions in order to facilite<br> discussion.<br> <span><br> <br> > Community Council will be providing a much more detailed list of<br> > incidents, with context, to the Kubuntu Council.<br> <br> </span>If the ratcheting back of *all* party's pre-conditions were to occur<br> at the same time (in advance of the detailed/additional factual<br> information being prepared here) this might allow conversation to flow<br> more freely after sharing.<br> <br> <br> -Paul<br> <br> [1] <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff</a><br> <br> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux)<br> <br> iD8DBQFVaKHmc444tukM+iQRAnvBAKCK1DJOqKu9ebi74eXj8A5MaeQTdACgpO4S<br> rbQ6WgON46XitwMDXfBdqi8=<br> =fwom<br> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br> <div> <div><br> <br> <br> --<br> Ubuntu-community-team mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team</a><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> <div><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i><b>Benjamin Kerensa</b></i></font> <div><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://benjaminkerensa.com" target="_blank">http://benjaminkerensa.com</a></i></font></div> <div><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>"I am what I am because of who we all are" - Ubuntu</i></font></div> </div> </div> <br> <fieldset></fieldset> <br> </blockquote> <br> </div> </div> </div> <br> --<br> Ubuntu-community-team mailing list<br> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-community-team@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-community-team</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> <div class="gmail_signature"><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i><b>Benjamin Kerensa</b></i></font> <div><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://benjaminkerensa.com" target="_blank">http://benjaminkerensa.com</a></i></font></div> <div><font color="#333333" face="comic sans ms, sans-serif"><i>"I am what I am because of who we all are" - Ubuntu</i></font></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html>