LWN article

Benjamin Kerensa bkerensa at gmail.com
Fri May 29 13:18:23 UTC 2015

AFAIK the CC rejected requests to be transparent and provide the requested
information citing that it is their policy to not disclose internal email
discussions between them and members.

That is in itself kind of a non issue since Jonathan has said he is
comfortable with the CC to release emails. Why they still won't is beyond

On May 29, 2015 6:09 AM, "Paul Sladen" <ubuntu at paul.sladen.org> wrote:
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> On Fri, 29 May 2015, Benjamin Kerensa wrote:
> > ...
> (If) individuals /choose/ to come to a particular viewpoint then
> collectively we should work to enable this without the discomfort of
> arm bending.
> A link to a third-party article can hopefully be /purely informative/
> by providing something for _all_ to read, digest and contemplate.
> …Highlighting any particular sentence on its own without context is
> likely to remove any balance of the original---balance, that may
> ultimately aid all-round reflection and equal dialogue.
> Waiting for requested information is likely to be beneficial as it
> contributes to understanding (even if not agreement).  If
> information is not already available then preparation does take time.
> Reading the emails that Scott Kitterman published we can see that
> Kubuntu Council members have already asked the Ubuntu Community
> Council to "please specify in what way Jonathan has violated the Code
> of Conduct or Leadership CoC?"[1] and "please send the CC meeting
> minute authorising it to the kubuntu-devel mailing list along with
> concrete examples of breaches of CoC and Leadership CoC."[1]  Would it
> make sense to wait for additional factual information?
>         -Paul
> [1] Kitterman, Scott (26 May 2015) (reproduced email correspondance)
> "Information Exchange Between the Ubuntu Community Council and the
> Kubuntu Council"
> (No dates are given for the two reproduced emails quoted.  Each is
> probably from sometime prior to the publication date of 26 May 2015).
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