[ Ubuntu-cm ] Association

[DEF]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM, willy ted Manga <mangawilly at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> Hi def, this is Manga willy aka OngolaBoy [0]
> first of all I'm glad to read u. I guess it was you that i met in the
> cameroonian forum [1] last week :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM, DEF <shaker.doc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have just downloaded and read the status of your organization.
>>
> I have a few comments to make::
>>
>> Considering that your goals rotate around  the promotion of ubuntu -
>> an open source and free operating system in the Cameroonian community
>> and Africa in general.
>> Considering that  Canonical which is the company that produces ubuntu
>> states its promise on its website as follows: [www.ubuntu.com - THE
>> UBUNTU PROMISE]
>>
>>   *  Ubuntu will always be free of charge, along with its regular
>> enterprise releases and security updates
>>    * Ubuntu comes with full commercial support from Canonical and
>> hundreds of companies from across the world
>>    * Ubuntu provides the best translations and accessibility features
>> that the free software community has to offer
>>    * Ubuntu core applications are all free and open source. We want
>> you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.
>>
>> Now having stated all the above, why does adherence to such an
>> organization has to be tied to the payment of a fee??
>>
>
> The fee which is required would help the *association* to fund more easily
> some events organised by Ubuntu-cm for example.
>
> This association **has not the intend** to make profits or to leverage
> access to anybody. We need a legal statut regarding the cameroonian
> environment. It will give us a better visibility.
>
> All the statements that you have mentioned above will always remain true
> within Ubuntu-cm. You are still able to participate in the locoTeam by
> subscribing to Launchpad [2], the Wiki[3], the mailing-list[4] , the
> forum[5] . Adherence to the association is *not mandatory*.
>
> Concerning specifically the payment of the fee, right now we can't modifiy
> the status because these texts have been discussed publicly with all the
> attendees to some IRC meetings. Here [6] and here [7]  at least.
>
> It's possible to update this term of the status during a meeting (be it
> online or physically) or we can even vote through Launchpad (there is a
> mecanism that enable us to vote) . I'm sure that you have noticed that we
> are trying to keep public *every* conversation regarding the association...
> We believe that this way we remain transparent and expect the feedback of
> everybody (like you) thus further modifications.
>
> So I'm ok if we change this term when the association will be legalised and
> during a meeting. In fact, I'm ok to change *everything* IF AND ONLY IF
> people participate, read what have been done and take the lead when there
> are ToDo stuff. The most important is to make things forward and spread the
> *philosophy* and usage of free/open source software in cameroon.
>
> Once again i say that it's not mandatory to apply for a membership in the
> association. The Cameroonian LocoTeam is already a big ecosystem and
> everybody can be involved in any part.
>
>
>
>>
>> MY PROPOSAL:
>> Keep it open like it is in the ubuntu community and the open source
>> community.
>> Elect a team that will manage the affairs, then allow people to rise
>> in the ranks depending on their commitment to your activities.
>> While activities are going on and you are known, then ask for
>> donation, from within and without.
>>
>
> I think that this evolution has been observed within the locoteam since
> 2007. If you can, try to skim the mailing-list archive [8] and notice how
> much things are evolving.
> We are at a stage where we need a legal personnality to defend interests of
> the community in Cameroon... We are at a stage where we need more
> commitments from members (in the association or not) ; a community should
> not rely only on 2 or 3 guys :(
>
>
> Sorry for the long mail and Congratulations on your good work.
>>
>
> Don't worry. Mine is longer than yours :D and thanks for your feedback.
>
>
> 0. https://launchpad.net/~manga-willy
> 1. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315841
> 2. https://launchpad.net/~kmer
> 3. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/
> 4. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cm
> 5. http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=291
> 6. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/Meetings/01072009
> 7. http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2009/10/16/%23ubuntu-cm.html
> 8. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cm/
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Yes. you got me. i am the one on the forum.
And thank you. i am Etienne
Your mail is very explicit, I followed the discussions on the links and now
I understand you well.

Good day.

DEF
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