<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM, willy ted Manga <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mangawilly@gmail.com">mangawilly@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<br>Hi def, this is Manga willy aka OngolaBoy [0]<br>first of all I'm glad to read u. I guess it was you that i met in the cameroonian forum [1] last week :)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:07 PM, DEF <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shaker.doc@gmail.com" target="_blank">shaker.doc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I have just downloaded and read the status of your organization. <br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
I have a few comments to make::<br>
<br>
Considering that your goals rotate around the promotion of ubuntu -<br>
an open source and free operating system in the Cameroonian community<br>
and Africa in general.<br>
Considering that Canonical which is the company that produces ubuntu<br>
states its promise on its website as follows: [<a href="http://www.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">www.ubuntu.com</a> - THE<br>
UBUNTU PROMISE]<br>
<br>
* Ubuntu will always be free of charge, along with its regular<br>
enterprise releases and security updates<br>
* Ubuntu comes with full commercial support from Canonical and<br>
hundreds of companies from across the world<br>
* Ubuntu provides the best translations and accessibility features<br>
that the free software community has to offer<br>
* Ubuntu core applications are all free and open source. We want<br>
you to use free and open source software, improve it and pass it on.<br>
<br>
Now having stated all the above, why does adherence to such an<br>
organization has to be tied to the payment of a fee??<br></blockquote></div><div><br>The fee which is required would help the *association* to fund more easily some events organised by Ubuntu-cm for example.<br><br>This association **has not the intend** to make profits or to leverage access to anybody. We need a legal statut regarding the cameroonian environment. It will give us a better visibility.<br>
<br>All the statements that you have mentioned above will always remain true within Ubuntu-cm. You are still able to participate in the locoTeam by subscribing to Launchpad [2], the Wiki[3], the mailing-list[4] , the forum[5] . Adherence to the association is *not mandatory*.<br>
<br>Concerning specifically the payment of the fee, right now we can't modifiy the status because these texts have been discussed publicly with all the attendees to some IRC meetings. Here [6] and here [7] at least.<br>
<br>It's possible to update this term of the status during a meeting (be it online or physically) or we can even vote through Launchpad (there is a mecanism that enable us to vote) . I'm sure that you have noticed that we are trying to keep public *every* conversation regarding the association... We believe that this way we remain transparent and expect the feedback of everybody (like you) thus further modifications.<br>
<br>So I'm ok if we change this term when the association will be legalised and during a meeting. In fact, I'm ok to change *everything* IF AND ONLY IF people participate, read what have been done and take the lead when there are ToDo stuff. The most important is to make things forward and spread the *philosophy* and usage of free/open source software in cameroon.<br>
<br>Once again i say that it's not mandatory to apply for a membership in the association. The Cameroonian LocoTeam is already a big ecosystem and everybody can be involved in any part.<br><br> </div><div class="im">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
MY PROPOSAL:<br>
Keep it open like it is in the ubuntu community and the open source community.<br>
Elect a team that will manage the affairs, then allow people to rise<br>
in the ranks depending on their commitment to your activities.<br>
While activities are going on and you are known, then ask for<br>
donation, from within and without.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>I think that this evolution has been observed within the locoteam since 2007. If you can, try to skim the mailing-list archive [8] and notice how much things are evolving.<br>
We are at a stage where we need a legal personnality to defend interests of the community in Cameroon... We are at a stage where we need more commitments from members (in the association or not) ; a community should not rely only on 2 or 3 guys :(<br>
<br><br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Sorry for the long mail and Congratulations on your good work.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Don't worry. Mine is longer than yours :D and thanks for your feedback.<br> <br></div><div><br>0. <a href="https://launchpad.net/~manga-willy" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~manga-willy</a><br>
1. <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315841" target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315841</a><br></div></div>2. <a href="https://launchpad.net/~kmer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~kmer</a><br>
3. <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/</a><br>
4. <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cm" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-cm</a><br>5. <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=291" target="_blank">http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=291</a><br>
6. <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/Meetings/01072009" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CameroonianTeam/Meetings/01072009</a><br>7. <a href="http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2009/10/16/%23ubuntu-cm.html" target="_blank">http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2009/10/16/%23ubuntu-cm.html</a><br>
8. <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cm/" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cm/</a><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><div><br></div><div>Yes. you got me. i am the one on the forum. </div><div>And thank you. i am Etienne </div><div>Your mail is very explicit, I followed the discussions on the links and now I understand you well.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Good day. </div><div><br></div><div>DEF</div>