Re-imagining

[Ralph Janke]

As I have said many times before, I think this is an irrelevant issue,
and a in some sense fruitless discussion.

The official LoCos just represent a contact to the LoCo Council for administrative
purposes, as the LoCo Council would not be able to interact with 1000s of teams.

How people organise inside the LoCos (like chapters or whatever) is best been 
left to each LoCo.

In a lot of ways it is like the political organisation of countries. Texas, Manitoba
or Bavaria are not members of the UN. USA, Canada, and Germany are. So if a provicial/
state official needs to interact with the UN, it usually is done through the channel
of the country they belong to. 

Still each of those places have various hierachies underneath depending on the needs,
counties, regions, municipalities, cities, townships... whatever works.

In particular since this is all based on voluntarism, nobody can really control everything.
What individual people do in order to make a local group work and satisfy the local needs,
can only be in the power and control of the local people who do it.

Ralph
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 02:49:22PM -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> I'm not arguing for "centralization of control."  Who has time for
> control?
> 
> Like I've said, I'm all for city teams being more formally established as a
> thing and more formally recognized by the LoCo council (my take on the
> Moscow ridiculousness is here:
> http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/Re-Ubuntu-Moscow-LoCo-tp5019872p5020043.html).
> 
> 
> I see the broader LoCo team, whatever its boundaries, as being a
> communication and collaboration mechanism.  (That and I like the Ubuntu
> Canada logo better than anything I could come up with for Ubuntu Waterloo,
> so I'd probably prefer to make stickers of that to put on my laptop).
> 
> Darcy.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 18:56 -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> > > It is arbitrary.  The goal, I think, is to subdivide the world into large
> > > areas that catch everybody.  Limiting to *only* cities wouldn't catch
> > > everybody and in all but a few cases wouldn't, again, have the traffic to
> > > justify the *online* community.
> >
> > It would be better to allow them to form organically at whatever size
> > and over whatever locality they choose to. If there is a desire to
> > create both an Ubuntu Russia LoCo as well as an Ubuntu Moscow LoCo, so
> > be it. It should be overly clear to all of us of an internet generation
> > the fallacy of over reliance on centralization of control.
> >
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