Re-imagining

[Ralph Janke]

I was talking more about the support, i,e translating news, wiki pages
answer, and doing a lot of user support in the native language.

English speaking countries do not have all these issues, do to the
general support system that is contributed to by people from all countries.

So in that sense it made a lot of sense especially in Europe to align
Locos in national areas.  I believe in particular in the beginning, a lot
started in Europe and it made sense to use models that worked there. 

Unfortunately, not every model works very well at every place. This is 
one of the reasons why I suggested to reflect and think what works for us.

To make indpendent decisions for what works in the local area is an 
important strength for a community based project and hence we should 
not be afraid to think more in those lines.

And since this project is in a lot of ways a do-ocracry, we should
not be afraid or embarrassed to look for solving what is our particular 
problem. Often you find out after you have solcved such an issue that 
a lot of others have the same problem, and it can transcent even the local
area. 

The big advantage of the local community is the personal contact. So why
not using this to the advantage.

Ralph
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 10:23:32AM -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> Translation teams forked from LoCos a while ago.
> 
> https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators
> 
> I mean, sure, there's plenty of overlap, but translation isn't the raison
> d'être of LoCos that they used to be.
> 
> There's probably a bit of a role for LoCos testing regional-specific stuff
> like weather services or providing content services like for things like
> Rhythmbox or the Unity video or shopping lenses.  But I don't think
> anyone's actually doing that.
> 
> Darcy.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:48:12PM -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
> > > All Ubuntu Canada is, really, is a bunch of online resources.
> > > Lower-traffic social and support channels.  That's about it.
> > >
> >
> > It also need to be pointed out that LoCos in a lot of places have taken
> > responsibility
> > for the local language. In the Canadian case this is irrelevant since our
> > channels
> > are all English which is the general language in the worldwide community.
> > However,
> > in Europe, where often languages are restricted to one country (or maybe a
> > couple)
> > this creates a far different requirement for translation and also support
> > in the
> > native language, while in our case people just go to the world-wide
> > available fora.
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:39:00PM -0700, Randall Ross wrote:
> > > > > Ubuntu is not a national construct. It has nothing to do with our
> > flag.
> > > > > It does not care if your government is in Ottawa or in Tripoli or in
> > > > Taipei.
> > > >
> > > > I completely agree. Nationalism is abstract and divisive. The idea of
> > > > marrying the LoCo with nationalism is anachronistic. Whether it was
> > called
> > > > Petrograd, Leningrad, or Saint Petersburg, the city is still there. The
> > > > Soviet Union, like all nations, come and go, but cities stand the test
> > of
> > > > time better because the people in them are real and exist beyond
> > abstract
> > > > identifiers. If a LoCo is to survive, it needs to move past the
> > > > anachronisms. Randall is right. LoCos at the city level make far more
> > > > sense. Moreover, for those who do not live near a large city, there is
> > > > nothing to stop someone from creating a LoCo catch-all for minorities
> > in
> > > > rural areas in a given locality.
> > > >
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