Re-imagining

Darcy Casselman dscassel at gmail.com
Tue Apr 9 15:01:09 UTC 2013


On second reading, yes, I will concede the point.


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Doug Penner <darwinsurvivor at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think he meant the non-english IRC channels and forum posts/groups.
>
>
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>
>  Translation teams forked from LoCos a while ago.
>>
>> https://translations.**launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-**translators<https://translations.launchpad.net/+groups/ubuntu-translators>
>>
>> I mean, sure, there's plenty of overlap, but translation isn't the raison
>> d'être of LoCos that they used to be.
>>
>> There's probably a bit of a role for LoCos testing regional-specific
>> stuff like weather services or providing content services like for things
>> like Rhythmbox or the
>> Unity video or shopping lenses.  But I don't think anyone's actually
>> doing that.
>>
>> Darcy.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Ralph Janke <txwikinger at ubuntu.com>
>> wrote:
>>       On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:48:12PM -0400, Darcy Casselman wrote:
>>       > All Ubuntu Canada is, really, is a bunch of online resources.
>>       > Lower-traffic social and support channels.  That's about it.
>>       >
>>
>> It also need to be pointed out that LoCos in a lot of places have taken
>> responsibility
>> for the local language. In the Canadian case this is irrelevant since our
>> channels
>> are all English which is the general language in the worldwide community.
>> However,
>> in Europe, where often languages are restricted to one country (or maybe
>> a couple)
>> this creates a far different requirement for translation and also support
>> in the
>> native language, while in our case people just go to the world-wide
>> available fora.
>>
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Kip Warner <kip at thevertigo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 12:39:00PM -0700, Randall Ross wrote:
>> > > > Ubuntu is not a national construct. It has nothing to do with our
>> flag.
>> > > > It does not care if your government is in Ottawa or in Tripoli or in
>> > > Taipei.
>> > >
>> > > I completely agree. Nationalism is abstract and divisive. The idea of
>> > > marrying the LoCo with nationalism is anachronistic. Whether it was
>> called
>> > > Petrograd, Leningrad, or Saint Petersburg, the city is still there.
>> The
>> > > Soviet Union, like all nations, come and go, but cities stand the
>> test of
>> > > time better because the people in them are real and exist beyond
>> abstract
>> > > identifiers. If a LoCo is to survive, it needs to move past the
>> > > anachronisms. Randall is right. LoCos at the city level make far more
>> > > sense. Moreover, for those who do not live near a large city, there is
>> > > nothing to stop someone from creating a LoCo catch-all for minorities
>> in
>> > > rural areas in a given locality.
>> > >
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