Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?

Mon May 26 18:34:01 UTC 2008

Which email and web browser are you using? In most cases you can move manually move the email and bookmarks, provided that you aren't moving between different applications. 
However now since I may be using anyone of 4 different machines on any given day. I use webmail "yahoo, gmail" and del.icio.us  I am a little busy these next few days, but I will have more time this weekend. Feel free to ask for more help. 

And I know a lot of people don't like this firefox addon "Torrent-Search Toolbar". But for me it is great because it locally stores all my webmail accounts and passwords. This allows me to easily monitor a dozen different email accounts. 

--- On Mon, 5/26/08, Alfred <alfred.s at nexicom.net> wrote:
From: Alfred <alfred.s at nexicom.net>
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?
To: tdwebste2 at yahoo.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>, "R. Wood" <rw at ncf.ca>
Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:50 AM

Hi R. Wood & Timothy Webster & The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community: 

I played with 7.10 a bit more, and got the repository thing to a point
where, the 8.04 upgrade listing does not show, but hovering over the
Upgrade Icon, it says that there are 577 upgrades. So I still need to
play with this some more, to fix this. I've done many installs of Ubuntu
on various machines, but I'm not the kind of expert that you are
Timothy. Wiping out the previous Version before installing the next one,
I've had bad experiences with this, when the Backup had an error, and
then I lost everything, to the previous Backup Mr. R. Wood. When they
are side by side, I can copy over most things, without problems, and
when there is no more need for the previous version, then I get rid of
it. Giving me about 100 Gigs of extra Disk space for something else.

Then I did a Manual Partition on an adjacent 100 Gig Partition, and then
played with my cables until the CDrom Drive worked again, and then
installed Ubuntu 8.04 into this new 100 Gig Partition, leaving the 7.10
Partition in tact. The settings for EVO and Firefox were copied and
transferred over to 8.04, automatically. I had to re-enter my ISP mail
settings, in 8.04. I tried to enter new CD's for the sources, but now my
DVD Drive is not reading, even though the CDRom drive now is. Might be
that one of the Jumpers needs to be replaced. I'll try to figure this
out later today. The Mail, and the Bookmarks from 7.10 were not
transferred. Everything is still there is 7.10 ready to be copied over.
This worked much better than installing over-top of 7.10.

Security errors that I had in 7.10 before making the upgrades, are now
fixed, and I no longer get Certificate errors, the way I did before, I
did 190 upgrades to it on Dial-up.

Alfred!
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Webster <tdwebste2 at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: tdwebste2 at yahoo.com, The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community
<ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?
Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:01:12 -0700 (PDT)

I disagree, there is no need to wipe  and reinstall to upgrade to ubuntu
8.04. 

Look at the upgrade list and upgrade a few at a time. With extra care to
things which include major changes, so read those change list too. Also
keep an eye on what extra stuff it is trying to install or remove. This
is much easier to do if you only upgrade a few packages at a time.

Divide the upgrade into little upgrades like it was met to be and you
will have no problems. Yes it will take a little longer, but does it
really mater that it took a dozen little upgrades and worked.

If you apply debian dpkgs to ubuntu or ubuntu dpkgs to debian, you will
need to watch dependences and conflicts. Only do this if you are brave,
have lots of time to debug things. It is actually easier in many cases
to pull the source dpkg and auto build the dpkg and install it. If you
want to mix distros.

--- On Sun, 5/25/08, R. Wood <rw at ncf.ca> wrote:
        From: R. Wood <rw at ncf.ca>
        Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04?
        To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community"
        <ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com>
        Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 8:34 PM

        -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
        Hash: SHA1

        Allegedly, on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 07:39:44AM -0400, Alfred stated:
        > Hi Andrew & The Canadian Ubuntu Users
         Community:
        > 
        > I went to /etc/apt/sources.list and unchecked all the Hardy CD and
DVD
        > items, and then reverted in checking all the Gutsy items. Then
when I
        > took a look in Update all 577 updates were no longer listed. Thank
you
        > for this answer it seems to be what I was looking for. However in
just a
        > few minutes all 577 items returned, so there must be some other
form of
        > backup list.
        [snip]

        Hi Alfred,

        I recommend you do a clean install of whatever latest version of Ubu
        you're trying to install.

        Ubu seems to have broken the old Debian mantra 'install once,
upgrade
        forever' approach AFAICT (that's one of the reasons why I went
back to
        Debian in the end actually).  In your case it is even more pressing
        since you left your system 'unpatched' for so long, ignoring
available
        security updates.  There is no way I would trust your system anymore.
        In addition you were
         applying Debian packages to your Ubu system IIRC --
        and this is never recommended.

        My advice (take it or leave it): Backup your data, do a completely
fresh
        install, copy your data back, and then this time apply security updates
        promptly so your system is protected against evil crackers, and stick
to
        the Ubu respositories...

        My $0.02,
        Raymond
        - -- 
        "Be Nice, or Leave - By Order of the Management"
        (Sign above door, Black Sheep Inn, Wakefield)
        GPG Fingerprint: 2E4D 8605 DD48 E80F F893  1C02 B65D 86D9 3B3C 0E03
        Encrypted Email Preferred  |  War is BIG Business: Enough Excuses,
Peace Now!
        Bush-whacked 2004! Try to relax and enjoy the Chaos :-)  |  Free Tibet
        -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
        Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)

        iD8DBQFIOgWwtl2G2Ts8DgMRAiQ6AKDRxt3QYilGVkJQ69P4JVTzmApJzACeNhtF
        0s81mCDYBf+o1pOcDsS/ufs=
        =tDFM
        -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

        -- 
        ubuntu-ca mailing
         list
        ubuntu-ca at lists.ubuntu.com
        https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ca

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-ca/attachments/20080526/d65fb61d/attachment.html>