<table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' background='none' style='font-family:arial;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);width:100%;'><tr><td valign='top' style='font: inherit;'>Which email and web browser are you using? In most cases you can move manually move the email and bookmarks, provided that you aren't moving between different applications. However now since I may be using anyone of 4 different machines on any given day. I use webmail "yahoo, gmail" and del.icio.us I am a little busy these next few days, but I will have more time this weekend. Feel free to ask for more help. And I know a lot of people don't like this firefox addon "Torrent-Search Toolbar". But for me it is great because it locally stores all my webmail accounts and passwords. This allows me to easily monitor a dozen different email accounts. --- On Mon, 5/26/08, Alfred <alfred.s@nexicom.net> wrote: <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: Alfred <alfred.s@nexicom.net> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04? To: tdwebste2@yahoo.com, "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca@lists.ubuntu.com>, "R. Wood" <rw@ncf.ca> Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 6:50 AM <pre>Hi R. Wood & Timothy Webster & The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community: I played with 7.10 a bit more, and got the repository thing to a point where, the 8.04 upgrade listing does not show, but hovering over the Upgrade Icon, it says that there are 577 upgrades. So I still need to play with this some more, to fix this. I've done many installs of Ubuntu on various machines, but I'm not the kind of expert that you are Timothy. Wiping out the previous Version before installing the next one, I've had bad experiences with this, when the Backup had an error, and then I lost everything, to the previous Backup Mr. R. Wood. When they are side by side, I can copy over most things, without problems, and when there is no more need for the previous version, then I get rid of it. Giving me about 100 Gigs of extra Disk space for something else. Then I did a Manual Partition on an adjacent 100 Gig Partition, and then played with my cables until the CDrom Drive worked again, and then installed Ubuntu 8.04 into this new 100 Gig Partition, leaving the 7.10 Partition in tact. The settings for EVO and Firefox were copied and transferred over to 8.04, automatically. I had to re-enter my ISP mail settings, in 8.04. I tried to enter new CD's for the sources, but now my DVD Drive is not reading, even though the CDRom drive now is. Might be that one of the Jumpers needs to be replaced. I'll try to figure this out later today. The Mail, and the Bookmarks from 7.10 were not transferred. Everything is still there is 7.10 ready to be copied over. This worked much better than installing over-top of 7.10. Security errors that I had in 7.10 before making the upgrades, are now fixed, and I no longer get Certificate errors, the way I did before, I did 190 upgrades to it on Dial-up. Alfred! -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Webster <tdwebste2@yahoo.com> Reply-To: tdwebste2@yahoo.com, The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca@lists.ubuntu.com> To: The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community <ubuntu-ca@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04? Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:01:12 -0700 (PDT) I disagree, there is no need to wipe and reinstall to upgrade to ubuntu 8.04. Look at the upgrade list and upgrade a few at a time. With extra care to things which include major changes, so read those change list too. Also keep an eye on what extra stuff it is trying to install or remove. This is much easier to do if you only upgrade a few packages at a time. Divide the upgrade into little upgrades like it was met to be and you will have no problems. Yes it will take a little longer, but does it really mater that it took a dozen little upgrades and worked. If you apply debian dpkgs to ubuntu or ubuntu dpkgs to debian, you will need to watch dependences and conflicts. Only do this if you are brave, have lots of time to debug things. It is actually easier in many cases to pull the source dpkg and auto build the dpkg and install it. If you want to mix distros. --- On Sun, 5/25/08, R. Wood <rw@ncf.ca> wrote: From: R. Wood <rw@ncf.ca> Subject: Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04? To: "The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community" <ubuntu-ca@lists.ubuntu.com> Date: Sunday, May 25, 2008, 8:34 PM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Allegedly, on Sat, May 24, 2008 at 07:39:44AM -0400, Alfred stated: > Hi Andrew & The Canadian Ubuntu Users Community: > > I went to /etc/apt/sources.list and unchecked all the Hardy CD and DVD > items, and then reverted in checking all the Gutsy items. Then when I > took a look in Update all 577 updates were no longer listed. Thank you > for this answer it seems to be what I was looking for. However in just a > few minutes all 577 items returned, so there must be some other form of > backup list. [snip] Hi Alfred, I recommend you do a clean install of whatever latest version of Ubu you're trying to install. Ubu seems to have broken the old Debian mantra 'install once, upgrade forever' approach AFAICT (that's one of the reasons why I went back to Debian in the end actually). In your case it is even more pressing since you left your system 'unpatched' for so long, ignoring available security updates. There is no way I would trust your system anymore. In addition you were applying Debian packages to your Ubu system IIRC -- and this is never recommended. My advice (take it or leave it): Backup your data, do a completely fresh install, copy your data back, and then this time apply security updates promptly so your system is protected against evil crackers, and stick to the Ubu respositories... My $0.02, Raymond - -- "Be Nice, or Leave - By Order of the Management" (Sign above door, Black Sheep Inn, Wakefield) GPG Fingerprint: 2E4D 8605 DD48 E80F F893 1C02 B65D 86D9 3B3C 0E03 Encrypted Email Preferred | War is BIG Business: Enough Excuses, Peace Now! Bush-whacked 2004! 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