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[Illusha Nokhrin]

Hm... I'm not sure what you mean by "various command line features".
Generally, as you probably already know, different apps do different tasks,
many of which can be done through the command line, but the apps just make
the experience a bit more user-friendly. If you're looking for replacing
things like chmod, rm, mv, cp and file management commands, any file manager
(nautilus, thunar, konqueror) should be able to do those. Synaptic is a nice
tool to use in place of apt-get or aptitude install. I believe there are
also several network management programs for commands like iptables and
ifconfig, although I've not played around with any.

Oddly enough, although I started off with Windows' point-and-click
interface, I find that most of the time I prefer to launch programs via the
keyboard (ALT+F2) instead of going through the menus. That might just be
because of my dislike of the XFCE menu, though.

Hope that helps,
Illusha

On 8/26/07, Donald &/or Mila Trombley <donmila at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>  Joel Goguen wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2007-24-08 at 19:56 -0300, Richard Seguin wrote:
>
>  I love it!!!!!  How many people do you have in your group? We are at a
> slight disadvantage out here in the eastern provinces as our population
> is a lot less and spread out more...  I have thought of designing
> systems based on compatibility... I have also thought of the black box
> idea where you
> push the power button and up comes a screen... No configuration and
> really no flexibility (great for people who only want something for web
> surfing and email and such)... It would be money in our pockets...  The
> geographical area around here though makes it so that idea is a bit hard.
>
> I guess it goes back to the post I made a few minutes ago...  WHY should
> people use Ubuntu...  any semi-geek knows that Windows and Linux are
> competitors... For my own efforts anyway I want to take that out of the
> equation...
>
>      This is close to what I keep coming back to.  Our culture is so in love
> with money that when we see something totally for free, the immediate
> reaction is almost invariably "something _must_ be wrong with it".  If
> you say that nothing is wrong with it, or if you say that nothing is
> wrong but... then you'll turn people off.  If you agree with them, it
> doesn't matter what you say after that.
>
> The other curse (or a blessing depending on your point of view) is
> choice.  People, contrary to what most F/OSS advocates say, do not
> always want lots of choices.  Some of us (like me) prefer to have lots
> of choices, but other people (like one friend of mine) want to have just
> one way of doing it that just works.
>
> Less technically literate people also want things to stay familiar.
> That's a big reason why a lot of people are staying away from Vista -
> it's not familiar to them.  I have no problem adapting to different
> interfaces on different systems (but going from Gnome to KDE to FVWM can
> throw me for a loop :)) but the biggest complaint I get from people is
> that it's not familiar.
>
> Finally, people don't like the command line.  I work for a university IT
> help desk, and all the time people call in asking for help and decide
> they would rather deal with their problem until one of us can do all
> that "DOS stuff" for them.  There's nothing they can click on to do the
> job, so it must be too hard for them.
>
> Anyway, I know a lot of that is off topic, but after that first
> paragraph I needed to say it.  At the very least, it's good things to
> keep in mind when telling people about Ubuntu, or Linux in general.
>
>    Personally, I do like the command-line way of accessing the information
> or programs which I wish to access...
> I used to be a DOS driver ;-) O:-) ! It gave me a lot of "control" in how
> I used the OS....But, unfortunately, I
> became "lazy" in that I now am used to using the "Icon" way (Point & click
> (shoot)) to access the programs...
> Linux for now is still a largely unfamiliar territiory for me, although I
> am slowly getting used to its idiosyncrasies.
> BTW: How do I access the various command line features, which I wish to
> run (so far, I have been able to
> most of them via "Point and Shoot" in XWindows format.....
>
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