Please!

Fri Apr 29 19:28:42 UTC 2005

I agree 100%. Thanks Daniel for speaking up. 

If there are people who want to talk to be directly about this please feel 
free to e-mail me or talk to me on IRC. 
Andrew

On 4/29/05, Daniel Robitaille <robitaille at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Before tension increases too much, Is it so urgent to sort out today
> who is doing what for the web site between Andrew and Alex and whoever
> else?
> 
> Let's deal with our reorganization first, then our vote for various
> positions next week, including a person in charge of web design/web
> maintenance.
> 
> And then once we have a bit more structure, people in place
> officially, and a sense of the direction we want to take as group,
> then we can deal with the web site redesign.
> 
> I don't think a web site should be the biggest of our worries today.
> We have a web presence now, and that should be enough for the next few
> days until we sort the other things out.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> PS And a friendly reminder to everyone, before things get out of hand,
> that communications in this mailing list are subject to the Ubuntu
> Code of Conduct.
> (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct) I invite everyone to
> read it if you haven't done so yet.
> 
> On 29/04/05, Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Forgot to include the group.
> >
> > Andrew
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com>
> > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:29
> > To:Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: We need to move on
> >
> > Thanks Alex but no thanks...please do not continue any work with the 
> redesign. The entire group needs to be involved in the shaping of our online 
> presence and shadowing and I are looking after it. I hope this my way or the 
> highway attitude is not what we would get if by some chance you were voted 
> into any position of responsibility. In your absence, action has been taken. 
> We had no choice since you were not around. You are free to align with what 
> we are doing or you can persist in your attempts to go your own route. We 
> cannot have a renegade in the group so if you do persist I imagine there 
> will be consequences.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/05, Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com> wrote: On 4/29/05, 
> Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 1) Vote - The vote should proceed as described earlier. Changing the 
> dates
> > > is confusing and I have heard from a number of members that we don;t 
> want
> > > this to be a long drawn out process. The Wiki page has been setup and
> > > communicated. lets move forward as is and not mention dates anymore.
> >
> > The reason I suggested Monday as the dates to finalize things on is 
> because
> > sometimes I dont check email on the weekends. My free time consists of
> > Mondays/Tuesdays and sometimes Wednesdays, sometimes those are the
> > only
> > times I even get to see a computer and sometimes not even then if Im
> > really busy.
> >
> > > 2) Webpage - The web page redesign stuff has been picked up by 
> shadowing
> > > and I since it looked like no one was doing anything about it. We 
> would
> > > love to have help because neither of us are web designers. We just saw 
> a
> > > need and through our hats in the ring. We have been putting in some 
> time on
> > > this, working with the French LoCo. We currently have a number of 
> ideas that
> > > we are ready to bring to the group. An update will follow, maybe 
> today.
> >
> > I will continue the redesign stuff.
> >
> > Nobody asked if any help was needed on the list, and you cant simply
> > take control of
> > something because you feel like it or because it seems inactive to you.
> >
> > If you would like to help me, thats great, I'll talk to Matthias about
> > getting you
> > access to the server if you dont already have it.
> >
> > > 3)Voting - We talked last night on IRC about having a mailing list 
> vote.
> > > One person would be responsible for counting the votes and updating 
> the Wiki
> > > page. nominees not voting sounds good to me too.
> >
> > We still need to discuss how the voting will actually take place.
> > Do we want a secret ballot?
> > The last time we voted people just sent their vote in to the mailing 
> list
> > but it didnt seem like that was very well supported.
> >
> > Another option is that we could use a poll on a forum, phpBB style.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/29/05, Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 4/28/05, Ryan Thiessen < ryan at ryanthiessen.com> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Daniel, for bringing some information to add to our 
> speculation.
> > > > > Okay then, instead of what I suggested, maybe we should wait until 
> the
> > > end
> > > > > of UDU to see what to do. Maybe one or more of us can attend the 
> next
> > > CC
> > > > > meeting and see if we can figure out the procedure for LoCo 
> leadership.
> > > >
> > > > When does UDU end? Waiting might not be a bad idea, the people who
> > > > have power to make decisions at Ubuntu move when they have the time 
> to
> > > > do so and if there is a big event going on right now then they
> > > > probably dont have the time.
> > > >
> > > > At the very least I suggest the deadly to apply for Leadership to be
> > > > moved to Monday May 2nd, 11:59pm Pacific time, and the deadline for
> > > > votes to Monday May 9th, 11:59pm Pacific time. (Pacific time because
> > > > it is the western most time zone and so the last place to reach
> > > > midnight in the country.)
> > > >
> > > > This will give us about 10day to have this wrapped up.
> > > >
> > > > Also we haven't yet agreed how voting will take place, and if a 
> person
> > > > can vote for themselves if they are being nominated for Leadership.
> > > > (I don't think nominee's should be aloud to vote.)
> > > >
> > > > > But, what should we do until then? Do we really need an official 
> leader
> > > > > to do things or should we just steam ahead? I think we could still
> > > > > incorporate Andrew and Antoine's work, and get more people on the
> > > > > planet, and just spruce things up in general. Then when we finally 
> get
> > > a
> > > > > project leader, they can figure out where to move us after that 
> point.
> > > >
> > > > First of all, I would like to see the CanadianTeam wiki cleaned up,
> > > > dual language on a single page is just really confusing.
> > > >
> > > > Second, I would like our main site to be completely redesigned,
> > > > tonight I updated
> > > > the information on our site so take a look at www.ubuntu-ca.org<http://www.ubuntu-ca.org>and
> > > > let me know if you see any problems.
> > > >
> > > > I'm currently in a web developer class at BCIT and I am learning a 
> lot
> > > > about good
> > > > design and development principals, at the time when I wrote the site
> > > > at www.ubuntu-ca.org <http://www.ubuntu-ca.org> I was completely 
> self taught and now that I've
> > > > taken a class I can see just how bad it is.
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to redesign the site as my term project. It wont be jaw
> > > > dropping amazing but the stuff I'm learning will enable me to blow 
> the
> > > > current site out of the water, not that that really says a whole lot
> > > > in light of the current site.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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