Please!

Fri Apr 29 19:11:14 UTC 2005

Before tension increases too much, Is it so urgent to sort out today
who is doing what for the web site between Andrew and Alex and whoever
else?

Let's deal with our reorganization first, then our vote for various
positions next week, including a person in charge of web design/web
maintenance.

And then once we have a bit more structure, people in place
officially,  and a sense of the direction we want to take as group,
then we can deal with the web site redesign.

I don't think  a web site should be the biggest of our worries today. 
We have a web presence now, and that should be enough for the next few
days until we sort the other things out.

Daniel

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that communications in this mailing list are subject to the Ubuntu
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On 29/04/05, Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Forgot to include the group.
> 
> Andrew
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 13:59:29
> To:Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: We need to move on
> 
> Thanks Alex but no thanks...please do not continue any work with the redesign.   The entire group needs to be involved in the shaping of our online presence and shadowing and I are looking after it.   I hope this my way or the highway attitude is not what we would get if by some chance you were voted into any position of responsibility.  In your absence, action has been taken.  We had no choice since you were not around.  You are free to align with what we are doing or you can persist in your attempts to go your own route.  We cannot have a renegade in the group so if you do persist I imagine there will be consequences.
> 
>  Andrew
> 
> 
> On 4/29/05, Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com> wrote: On 4/29/05, Andrew VanSpronsen <avanspronsen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 1) Vote - The vote should proceed as described earlier.  Changing the dates
> > is confusing and I have heard from a number of members that we don;t want
> > this to be a long drawn out process.  The Wiki page has been setup and
> > communicated.  lets move forward as is and not mention dates anymore.
> 
> The reason I suggested Monday as the dates to finalize things on is because
> sometimes I dont check email on the weekends. My free time consists of
> Mondays/Tuesdays and sometimes Wednesdays, sometimes those are the
> only
> times I even get to see a computer and sometimes not even then if Im
> really busy.
> 
> >  2) Webpage - The web page redesign stuff has been picked up by shadowing
> > and I since it looked like no one was doing anything about it.   We would
> > love to have help because neither of us are web designers.  We just saw a
> > need and through our hats in the ring.  We have been putting in some time on
> > this, working with the French LoCo. We currently have a number of ideas that
> > we are ready to bring to the group.  An update will follow, maybe today.
> 
> I will continue the redesign stuff.
> 
> Nobody asked if any help was needed on the list, and you cant simply
> take control of
> something because you feel like it or because it seems inactive to you.
> 
>  If you would like to help me, thats great, I'll talk to Matthias about
> getting you
> access to the server if you dont already have it.
> 
> >  3)Voting - We talked last night on IRC about having a mailing list vote.
> > One person would be responsible for counting the votes and updating the Wiki
> > page.  nominees not voting sounds good to me too.
> 
> We still need to discuss how the voting will actually take place.
> Do we want a secret ballot?
> The last time we voted people just sent their vote in to the mailing list
> but it didnt seem like that was very well supported.
> 
> Another option is that we could use a poll on a forum, phpBB style.
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/05, Alex Combas <alex.combas at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 4/28/05, Ryan Thiessen < ryan at ryanthiessen.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Daniel, for bringing some information to add to our speculation.
> > > > Okay then, instead of what I suggested, maybe we should wait until the
> > end
> > > > of UDU to see what to do.  Maybe one or more of us can attend the next
> > CC
> > > > meeting and see if we can figure out the procedure for LoCo leadership.
> > >
> > > When does UDU end? Waiting might not be a bad idea, the people who
> > > have power to make decisions at Ubuntu move when they have the time to
> > > do so and if there is a big event going on right now then they
> > > probably dont have the time.
> > >
> > > At the very least I suggest the deadly to apply for Leadership to be
> > > moved to Monday May 2nd, 11:59pm Pacific time, and the deadline for
> > > votes to Monday May 9th, 11:59pm Pacific time. (Pacific time because
> > > it is the western most time zone and so the last place to reach
> > > midnight in the country.)
> > >
> > > This will give us about 10day to have this wrapped up.
> > >
> > > Also we haven't yet agreed how voting will take place, and if a person
>  > > can vote for themselves if they are being nominated for Leadership.
> > > (I don't think nominee's should be aloud to vote.)
> > >
> > > > But, what should we do until then?  Do we really need an official leader
> > > > to do things or should we just steam ahead?  I think we could still
> > > > incorporate Andrew and Antoine's work, and get more people on the
> > > > planet, and just spruce things up in general.  Then when we finally get
> > a
> > > > project leader, they can figure out where to move us after that point.
> > >
> > > First of all, I would like to see the CanadianTeam wiki cleaned up,
> > > dual language on a single page is just really confusing.
> > >
> > > Second, I would like our main site to be completely redesigned,
> > > tonight I updated
> > > the information on our site so take a look at www.ubuntu-ca.org  and
> > > let me know if you see any problems.
> > >
> > > I'm currently in a web developer class at BCIT and I am learning a lot
> > > about good
> > > design and development principals, at the time when I wrote the site
> > > at www.ubuntu-ca.org I was completely self taught and now that I've
> > > taken a class I can see just how bad it is.
> > >
> > > I'm going to redesign the site as my term project. It wont be jaw
> > > dropping amazing but the stuff I'm learning will enable me to blow the
> > > current site out of the water, not that that really says a whole lot
> > > in light of the current site.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
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