less talk more action

[AndrewG]

Hi Paul & the List,

Speaking of the website.

I'm a bit confused about the website url as well  ubuntu.com.au or
ubuntu.org.au
Not that it matters because they point to the same site.
Although I thought that a .com.au could only be obtained by a
registered Australian business.
Maybe www.auda.org.au can provide more answers.

Anyway this is way off topic, a bit like some of the current
discussions.

I'm still waiting for my post for the BRISBANE Lucid release party to
be posted.

I made a submission on the 8th almost a week ago.
I guess it will happen when it does.   (sorry for my optimism, but I
think that adds to my argument, in the general discussion)

Regards,

           Andrew G.


On Apr 13, 9:30 pm, Paul Gear <p... at libertysys.com.au> wrote:
> On 13/04/10 19:46, Dave Hall wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I have been watching as the whole structure and leadership discussions
> > has come up again.
>
> > I've looked back over the archives for this year.  Based on the amount
> > of energy exerted by people discussing things on this list and IRC about
> > "what's f'd with the LoCo" they could have organised and run several
> > real meat space events.
> > ...
>
> > I know for some people ubuntu is their first experience with the
> > free/open source software community.  This can lead to some
> > misunderstandings around how things work in such communities.
> > ...
>
> > Instead of people blaming others and the organisation structure for why
> > things aren't working, look at your own contributions.  This list is
> > here to facilitate actions, but most of the time I just see people
> > finding excuses for why things aren't happening.
>
> I have to agree with Dave's sentiments here.  There has been too much
> heat and not enough light in our recent discussions.
>
> To my eye, the main things that have really caused issues are:
>
>    1. limited commit access to the ubuntu.org.au/ubuntu.com.au web site
>    2. confusion over which is the official mailing list
>    3. porn in the Google group
>    4. vague perceptions that more "transparency" and "accountability",
>       and a change in structure, is needed
>
> My suggested solutions:
>
>    1. Create your own blog.  Ask Melissa (or whoever) to add it to
>       Planet Ubuntu AU.  Start creating events, blog entries, and other
>       content so compelling that Melissa (or whoever) asks you to post
>       it on the main site, and gives you an account to do so.
>    2. Check out the latest version of
>      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/MailingLists- i hope you
>       like my clever use of headings!  ;-)
>    3. Use Gmane or the official Canonical list server.
>    4. Stop worrying about transparency, accountability (however you
>       define those), and structure.  Do cool stuff with Ubuntu.  Tell
>       other people about it and invite others to join you, both here on
>       the list and in your local area.
>
> Paul
>
> P.S. One area of confusion for me: which of ubuntu.org.au/ubuntu.com.au
> is the official/preferred/default web site?
>
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