LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

[Jared Norris]

Michael,

I'm sorry to diverge a little here but I was wondering if you would be able
to email me these references to porn on the mailing list that has been
mentioned a couple of times now. As a mailing list admin I see my fair share
of spam from the list but the whole idea of the mailing list admin team (of
which I am only one of several) is to prevent this type of thing getting
through to the list. Other than the messages we cull from the list I am not
aware of anything else of dubious nature going to the list. If you can
please send it off list so we don't re-spam it again I will endeavour to
have it looked into and I will report back any findings made to you and the
list.

Regards,

Jared Norris


On 13 April 2010 11:39, Michael <keltoiboy at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Apr 13, 10:42 am, Peter Schwenke <pe... at bluetoad.com.au> wrote:
> > I am of a similar opinion to Daniel with regard to bureaucracy.
> > However, I have been biting my tongue.
> >
> > The current set up is not stopping anybody from doing anything.
>
> Isn't it? Then why can't I get a straight answer to why does this
> mailing list have references to porn in it and how can I get rid of
> them?
>
>
> > IMO the effort spent on drawing up leadership plans and roadmaps could
> > be spent on testing and (for the more technical folk) fixing bugs
> > (providing patches).
>
> The issue here is the re-approval asks for a Roadmap, so it does need
> to be discussed.
>
> > If a package you are using has issues, investigate why and report it.
> > For example, you might see it has been fixed upstream.
> >
> > If you have some software you see that needs packaging for Ubuntu,
> > package it up.
>
> Totally beside the point with regards to this discussion. We are not
> talking about the entire Ubuntu community, instead we are talking
> about Ubuntu-AU. Mixing them up does nothing except for clouding the
> issue being discussed.
>
> > If you would like to do something in the wider community, send a message
> > to the list and see if you get help (and maybe advice) and do it.
>
> Like get the references to porn of the Mailing list membership list?
>
> > If you have the ability to answer questions on forums, put some effort
> > in to that.
>
> I already do and thats because this community is dysfunctional.
>
> > Then, after doing something, if you want a title or "belong", become an
> > Ubuntu member or something.
>
> In that process already but why can't people like me also want to help
> Ubuntu-AU expand. Why can't we have an open and honest discussion
> about our local scene instead of having the global scene thrown in to
> confuse the issue.
>
> > By doing the above some people will show leadership in organising
> something.
>
> Do you know how many people in this mailing list are seen to be active
> in the regular forum? Let me say that it looks like there aren't many
> of us there often.
>
> > IMO, having elections and boards and titles etc does not make  any of
> > the above happen.   If you have 9 people, some of their circumstances
> > will change, they'll no longer be available to contribute.   I'm sure
> > many people here have been involved (or know others)in various clubs.
> > The same story.... Then you get the politics and vested interests and
> > perceived vested interests... and ...
>
> I really think you miss the point. This is a discussion about
> transparency and the real lack of it. If you don't want the system to
> change that is fine lets have a vote and see what the entire Ubuntu-AU
> community think and lets then honour that choice regardless of what it
> is.
>
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