Michael,<br><br>I'm sorry to diverge a little here but I was wondering if you would be able to email me these references to porn on the mailing list that has been mentioned a couple of times now. As a mailing list admin I see my fair share of spam from the list but the whole idea of the mailing list admin team (of which I am only one of several) is to prevent this type of thing getting through to the list. Other than the messages we cull from the list I am not aware of anything else of dubious nature going to the list. If you can please send it off list so we don't re-spam it again I will endeavour to have it looked into and I will report back any findings made to you and the list.<br> <br clear="all">Regards,<br><br>Jared Norris<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 April 2010 11:39, Michael <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:keltoiboy@gmail.com">keltoiboy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="im">On Apr 13, 10:42 am, Peter Schwenke <<a href="mailto:pe...@bluetoad.com.au">pe...@bluetoad.com.au</a>> wrote:<br> > I am of a similar opinion to Daniel with regard to bureaucracy.<br> > However, I have been biting my tongue.<br> ><br> > The current set up is not stopping anybody from doing anything.<br> <br> </div>Isn't it? Then why can't I get a straight answer to why does this<br> mailing list have references to porn in it and how can I get rid of<br> them?<br> <div class="im"><br> <br> > IMO the effort spent on drawing up leadership plans and roadmaps could<br> > be spent on testing and (for the more technical folk) fixing bugs<br> > (providing patches).<br> <br> </div>The issue here is the re-approval asks for a Roadmap, so it does need<br> to be discussed.<br> <div class="im"><br> > If a package you are using has issues, investigate why and report it.<br> > For example, you might see it has been fixed upstream.<br> ><br> > If you have some software you see that needs packaging for Ubuntu,<br> > package it up.<br> <br> </div>Totally beside the point with regards to this discussion. We are not<br> talking about the entire Ubuntu community, instead we are talking<br> about Ubuntu-AU. Mixing them up does nothing except for clouding the<br> issue being discussed.<br> <div class="im"><br> > If you would like to do something in the wider community, send a message<br> > to the list and see if you get help (and maybe advice) and do it.<br> <br> </div>Like get the references to porn of the Mailing list membership list?<br> <div class="im"><br> > If you have the ability to answer questions on forums, put some effort<br> > in to that.<br> <br> </div>I already do and thats because this community is dysfunctional.<br> <div class="im"><br> > Then, after doing something, if you want a title or "belong", become an<br> > Ubuntu member or something.<br> <br> </div>In that process already but why can't people like me also want to help<br> Ubuntu-AU expand. Why can't we have an open and honest discussion<br> about our local scene instead of having the global scene thrown in to<br> confuse the issue.<br> <div class="im"><br> > By doing the above some people will show leadership in organising something.<br> <br> </div>Do you know how many people in this mailing list are seen to be active<br> in the regular forum? Let me say that it looks like there aren't many<br> of us there often.<br> <div class="im"><br> > IMO, having elections and boards and titles etc does not make any of<br> > the above happen. If you have 9 people, some of their circumstances<br> > will change, they'll no longer be available to contribute. I'm sure<br> > many people here have been involved (or know others)in various clubs.<br> > The same story.... Then you get the politics and vested interests and<br> > perceived vested interests... and ...<br> <br> </div>I really think you miss the point. This is a discussion about<br> transparency and the real lack of it. If you don't want the system to<br> change that is fine lets have a vote and see what the entire Ubuntu-AU<br> community think and lets then honour that choice regardless of what it<br> is.<br> <div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> --<br> ubuntu-au mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br>