[ubuntu-art] Dealing with issues and seeking advice

[Vishnoo]

On Fri, 2011-02-18 at 19:30 -0500, coz DS wrote:
> 
> Hey guys
> 
>      Bad taste.. wrong timing...or just plain being an ass... the
> links offered by jbaer came at  an inappropriate time.
> Let the judging of the included wallpapers finish..then do what you
> like... but official stuff needs to have a single place for
> submissions.
>   
>     I have really never heard any "harsh" criticisms of work.. if they
> are bad pieces  and saying "these are bad"  is harsh then please more
> harshness :)
>  Quite frankly I can go to  gnome-look.org and download wallpapers
> without worries, or create my own, so I am not clear on the
> "explanation" given by him.
>  
>    The private emails, which initially tried to  resolve this issue,
> were a great idea,,, it failed,, I dont think private conversations
> are needed any longer.  
> 
>   Also... people...please remember that NO ONE on the community art
> team is going to have final say for ANY content that makes it into
> Ubuntu,,, that is strictly Canonical's decision...but the
> opportunity , this judging is giving the community, is one step closer
> to the community art team becoming a formidable force in making final
> decisions of Ubuntu's content. However, with this "major" glitch in
> the process, we have taken several steps backwards, perhaps more!
>    Imagine the disappointment and frustration that is going to arise
> from those that submitted work to a "false"  site in hopes of their
> pieces being included in Ubuntu release once they find out ... all too
> late... that they have been mislead !
>   
>     We all need to do our part in trying to talk with jbaer, other
> than those that already have, to help him understand that his behavior
> is not team oriented and a destructive path which only leads to people
> leaving the group. We should also try to contact everyone that has
> submitted work to his links, so they know their work will NOT be
> considered.
>    
>     I personally want to know why this decision... why these
> misleading links ,, What the hell was he thinking!
> 
>      Events like this, which compound the existing issues the group
> has,, only pushes away any possibility of real recognition of the
> community art team by canonical!
>   
> "Banning"  him will only exacerbate the   situation. 
>      
>       welcomed or not...those are my thoughts on the issue.
>         
>    
> 
> coz


I'm +1 on this, exactly why us banning him is not going to help.

John needs to explain his actions and course-correct his attitude.
He needs to correct his behavior, or if he is not able to correct
himself he needs to quit on his own. 

Someone else banning him wont help here, and might blow this 'silly
drama' out of proportion

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Cheers,
Vish