[ubuntu-art] Dust menubar evolution

[Rico Sta. Cruz]

Nah.
Let me explain my reason for going with the light-default, dark-exceptions
toolbar rule:

1) I can't be sure that third-party applications will like the dark
toolbars. Having light as default will ensure better compatibility with more
applications.

2) The dark toolbars can be overwhelming. I thought it'd be wise to limit
the # of apps that use it. I've limited it to applications that, like I
said, use everything below the toolbars as content area (Firefox, Evince PDF
viewer, Nautilus...) -- rationale being the toolbars (functions) are
separate from the main show (the content), which IMHO is quite intuitive and
addressess most people's complaints of "having both dark and light at the
same window."

I hope that clears things up!


Adam Gusztav Nagy wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 2008-09-28 at 19:43 -0700, Rico Sta. Cruz wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> Just wanted to show you guys the recent unreleased developments on this
>> theme.
>> 
>> 1) Light toolbars
>> The toolbars are going to be light by default. The dark, menu-integrated
>> toolbars will still be used by browser- and viewer-type applications
>> where
>> the entire area below the toolbars is dedicated to content (i.e.:
>> Firefox,
>> Nautilus, Eye of Gnome, Evince...)
>> 
>>     http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/9896/dusttoolbarko0.png
>> 
>> Rationale: Aside from the fact that the dark toolbars cause problems on
>> certain apps, I wanted to create a distinction between types of
>> applications, while still staying visually coherent. If you look at OSX,
>> there are certain apps that use a different look (brushed metal) from the
>> rest, but the interface still manages to be solid.
> 
> 
> isnt it possible to make the opposite of it? and make the dark toolbar
> default, and than define the apps (for example with the ones with java
> interfaces, which cant handle the dark widget like openoffice, firefox,
> freemind, etc) that would use the light toolbar?
> maybe it is possible to set all the java interfaces at one place, like 
> widget "JAVAGtkWidget*Toolbar*"	style "murrine-default"
> just a guess.
> what do you think?
> 
>> 2) Light version.
>> Just tryin' it out. Here's "Sand":
>> 
>>     http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4532/dustsand2ks2.png
>> 
>> 3) New scrollbars!
>> Okay, I'm sure there will be vehement reactions to this. Bear with me as
>> scrollbars are *hard* to design: you can never be sure they will look
>> good
>> everywhere! With that out of the way, here they are:
>> 
>>    http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6352/dustnewscrollbarsfj4.png
>> 
>> 
>> Comments welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> PRGUY85 wrote:
>> > 
>> > *Hi all.
>> > 
>> > I've been testing Dust theme since its first release, very kind of it,
>> but
>> > I
>> > think we're getting away from the original mockup, sometimes it's good,
>> > but
>> > sometimes it's bad : looking at the menubars, the original mockup is
>> very
>> > clean. It's dark, compact, and the gradient is very soft, quite clean
>> in
>> > fact. Looking back at the actual version of Dust, there are gradients
>> > everywhere in the top of a window :). Three of them in a Nautilus
>> window,
>> > which is a little confusing I must say. Plus, the colors have gone
>> lighter
>> > and lighter, and we now have a dark _grey_ theme, instead of the
>> original
>> > dark one. Now Dust feels much glossier, I think, and less usable IMHO.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Screenshot : http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8178/dustmenubargv6.png .
>> > 
>> > And keep up the great work !
>> > 
>> > Steph.*
>> > 
>> > Totally agree.  Dust had me in the beginning but it has gone way off
>> > the first released mockup.  I think the 3 different gradient areas in
>> > Nautilus should be worked into one unison color gradient.
>> > Here is where I prefer New Wave, however Dust has a great metacity
>> > theme and the black is better than the gray at times in my opinion.
>> > Keep up the good work.
>> > 
>> > 
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