[ubuntu-art] [Ubuntu-Art] Hardy GTK theme

Corey Woodworth coreywoodworth at gmail.com
Wed Nov 7 19:14:12 GMT 2007

I agree, as much as I like dark themes, there are just too many kinks to
work out. I do like the idea of packaging an aditional dark theme with hardy
though. It would be a good base to build from if we wanted  to make a dark
theme default in hardy+1


On Nov 7, 2007 1:50 PM, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <mikkel.kamstrup at gmail.com>

> On 07/11/2007, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 2007 12:14 AM, Troy James Sobotka <troy.sobotka at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:
> > > Another problem with dark themes is a purely technical one. I've done
> > > a
> > > handful dark themes myself, but they always end up with small glitches
> > > here and there because not all apps are designed to respect the theme
> > > 100% This makes for a bit of an amateurish feel in the long run. That
> > > is
> > > not acceptable for Hardy.
> > >
> > > I always seem to find myself in agreement with Mikkel's observations
> > > and conclusions.
> > >
> >
> > One thing we may want to consider is quickly getting a dark theme in
> > place in Hardy so that by Alpha 1, which is released November 29th, we can
> > start getting bug reports on these problems.
> >
> > This could be as simple as including the ubuntu-studio theme, or it
> > could be more advanced. I think the key is to get something in soon. Core
> > devs are *already* running hardy, and in large part, they (not us) will need
> > to help identify and communicate these problems to upstream.
> >
> > I can personally attest that a dark theme can be usable and very
> > attractive. It is challenging to achieve a balance and to get your
> > applications working and looking good. The beauty of a dark theme is it
> > draws your eyes to your work, which will have a lighter color, and in a way
> > relegates the controls and chrome to a less prominent positions without
> > actually putting them in an unusual or unexpected place.
> This is exactly my problem with dark themes - the contrast between the
> surroundings  and the document I edit is too big. My eyes get sore after a
> few hours.
> For hacking in GEdit this is not a big problem because I can have a dark
> theme there too, but for OpenOffice I just *need* that white backgound. It
> is silly to have a wysiwyg editor where there colors are not what other
> people will see.
> An additional challenge with this type of functional art is to not be too
> > clever. It still needs to be functional.
> >
> > Hmm... that might be a cool name for the new theme: functional-art.
> On top of my previous points I simply do not believe that we can smooth
> out the rough edges (non-theme-compliant-apps) on a dark theme in 6 months.
> Hardy should be enterprise level and we cannot achieve that on a dark theme
> in that time frame. Fixing the apps require real developers, not just
> themers, and we are really short on those.
> Please not that I really do like dark themes. Maybe we should just bundle
> a dark version of the final theme.
> Cheers,
> Mikkel
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