orca out of the box

Bill Cox waywardgeek at gmail.com
Fri Dec 11 14:07:04 GMT 2009

Hi, Arki, and thanks for working on the bugs.  I think there are a few
of us who would like to help get Orca working well in Lucid.  I've
installed alpha1, and have run into the pyatspi bug you know about.
Any help getting Orca working well is appreciated.  I'm comfortable
debugging C code, but I don't understand the whole D-bus/atspi/COBRA
stuff at all, or even if that's where the bug lies.

Another issue with continues to be pulseaudio.  Disabling it with the
.pulse_a11y_nostart hack leads to far superior audio performance.  Do
you think we have time to fix the pulseaudio problems for Lucid, or
should we focus on making the accessibility install with pulseaudio
disabled less buggy and more usable?  I'd like to help track down bugs
in Lucid related to accessibility from now until the April release.


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Isaac Porat <isaac at porat.me.uk> wrote:
> Hello Arki and all
>  Your reply implies that all is well, in fact those who tried speech with
> Karmic knows that it is for all practical purposes unusable.  It is my
> impression that even geeks can't get it to work reliably PulseAudio is too
> deeply embedded into the system and it seems that those looking after audio
> in Canonical never considered the impact of this on the blind community.
> There is a bold statement about accessibility on Ubuntu's website but it
> seems to have no roots in reality at least with Karmic.
> Jaunty had at least a clean way to remove PulseAudio and in fact it is the
> first distro I can use as a blind person productively - thanks to all
> concerned.  Karmic is completely the other way - unusable.
> Yes I am aware of the various tweaks with limited effect and completely
> unworkable for the typical blind Windows or Mac user looking for an
> alternative.
>  http://live.gnome.org/Orca/UbuntuKarmic
> When Karmic was released I thought this problem  was a glitch, an oversight
> which will be sorted out; there are no visible sighnes of this yet, at least
> nothing that the blind community is aware of.
> Regards
> Isaac
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-accessibility-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Arky
> Sent: 11 December 2009 05:30
> To: Josh; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: orca out of the box
> Hi Josh,
> Ubuntu LiveCD has an accessibility mode that enables blind users to use Orca
> screen reader and magnifier.
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility/#Starting%20Orca%20on%20the%
> 20Live%20CD
> Cheers
> --arky
> Rakesh 'arky' Ambati| IT Consultant| http://www.braillewithoutborders.org |
> Blog: http://playingwithsid.blogspot.com
>        From: Josh <jkenn337 at gmail.com>
>        To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
>        Sent: Fri, 11 December, 2009 6:40:12 AM
>        Subject: orca out of the box
>        Hi,
>        I think in the next release when ubuntu live cd/dvd starts up it
> should detect the sound card then say: if you're blind do this to start the
> live cd with orca and dothat to start the installer with orca. make it more
> like the mac with voiceover kind of.
>        Josh
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