Confusing intertwining of Ubuntu Development teams for Membership

[Emmet Hikory]

Cody A.W. Somerville wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
>>
>> On 08/03/10 13:55, Matthew East wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
>> >
>> >> <quote who="Emmet Hikory" date="Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:17:39AM +0900">
>> >>
>> >>>     The alternative to this move would be to add all current members
>> >>> of Ubuntu Contributing Developers (~universe-contributors) to Ubuntu
>> >>> Members (~ubuntumembers) and grant the Developer Membership Board
>> >>> direct administration over Ubuntu Members (~ubuntumembers), in which
>> >>> case Ubuntu Contributing Developers may be removed.
>> >>>
>> >> That makes sense to me. I don't understand the benefit of keeping the
>> >> two distinct.
>> >>
>> > +1
>> >
>>
>> -1. I think we should retain a delegated membership group that is
>> developer-centric, rather than lump it all in ubuntumembers.
>
> What about retaining these delegated membership groups but having each of
> these groups have direct membership in ubuntumembers?  This would make the
> relationship of these teams with ubuntumembers explicit which provides the
> benefit of making it easier for the CC to keep track of the teams which do
> grant membership as well as identify teams which weren't intended to give
> membership but do incidentally.

    If I'm reading this correctly, this would run counter to my
initial intent, which was to simplify the documentation.  My preferred
way to do that is to have only one team that grants membership for
development activities (and include other development teams where
appropriate).  This makes it easy to document, and easy to understand
for the newcomer (if you want membership for development activites:
talk to these folk).  The side discussion on dropping the Contributing
Developer group was only to illustrate a potential alternative: I'd
rather keep the status quo than add yet more paths between developers
and the Ubuntu Members group.

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Emmet HIKORY