RFC: Comfortable Snappy (aka Comfy ;-)

Paul Larson paul.larson at canonical.com
Mon Jun 22 15:05:20 UTC 2015


On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Loïc Minier <loic.minier at ubuntu.com>
wrote:
...

> Over time, various expectations grew for Comfy, here are some sample use
> cases:
>
>    1.
>
>    Get a more complete unix-ish / Ubuntu-ish experience on snappy
>    devices; tools in Ubuntu standard/server, preferred/alternate shell,
>    various utilities to get things done e.g. wget, lftp, vidir, dig, screen,
>    tmux, file, various additional interpreters like perl
>    2.
>
>    Debugging/tuning/configuration at system level: access to logs,
>    tcpdump, mtr, full editor for system config, wget etc.
>    3.
>
>    Development / software iterations: get/build/run/debug software on the
>    target Snappy system
>    4.
>
>    Advanced debugging of snappy apps: gdb, strace, ltrace, access to
>    logs, etc.
>
> System tests may like to have facilities like this available as well. So
far I've just been adding small snaps for random cli tools that I miss but
having a de-facto way of getting things like this would be really nice. Is
it going to be all or nothing though? I could see this growing into a huge
pile of random "extras" if you add anything that anyone could possibly want.

Also, could other snaps make use of these as a sort of dependency? Ogra
mentioned in another followup that python and even could be going away, and
I'm sure a lot of snaps would love to make permanent use of it if you added
thing like that here. Or are things like this better suited for something
like a framework?
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