motu-release will revert libgems-ruby to the old state.

Soren Hansen soren at ubuntu.com
Wed Sep 3 09:30:09 BST 2008


On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 09:27:35AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>> I'm happy to engage in a discussion as to whether motu-release
>> *should* have this authority. In fact, I'm inclined to think that
>> they should.  I'm simply pointing out that they currently do *not*.
> AFAIR, this is the very first case a MOTU elected body (motu-release)
> resolved a technical dispute like this. 

I agree.

> In this particular case, they have showed a detailed technical review
> of their investigation. This involved many active ubuntu developers
> (the motu-release members), which (as you seem to agree) all of them
> would have the authority to revert an upload if they think it was
> right.

Each individual MOTU has the right to upload any package in universe.
However, there's no precedent for upload duels, and doing an upload that
reverts the changes of fellow MOTU would be considered very bad manners
indeed. If a situation arises where someone feels this is necessary, I'd
expect them to raise the issue with the proper bodies of authority.

This is *not* what happened in this situation.  In this situation, a
body elected under one set of rules, autonomously decides that is has
additional authority, and trumphs a MOTU's changes and reverts them.
Acting as a group doesn't make it any less bad manners.  Quite the
contrary, IMO. Surely your familiar with the term "judge, jury, and
executioner"?

> I therefore can only support the move of action of motu-release and
> would like to encourage them to continue their great way of resolving
> technical disagreements such as this one.

Under what authority? The members of motu-release were elected to be
part of the team that evaluates and approves/disapproves various freeze
exceptions. Nothing else.

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Soren Hansen               | 
Virtualisation specialist  | Ubuntu Server Team
Canonical Ltd.             | http://www.ubuntu.com/
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