What means don't contribute to ubuntu dev...
Mark Shuttleworth
mark at ubuntu.com
Fri Jan 25 20:44:48 GMT 2008
Marco, please take a deep breath, and take the trouble to read carefully
what people are saying.
Everyone wants very much to work with you, but they cannot do that if
you don't make the effort to read, and listen, and participate as a team
member. You rush, and offend people by your unwillingness to work
*together* with folks. We all want Ubuntu to be a success, and I believe
that you want the same thing. We want it to be higher quality, more
interesting, and deliver the best of the amazing work done by the free
software community. But we can't achieve that if some members of the
team act without listening.
People have been asking you to think more, talk less, learn more, push
less, ask more, tell less, and you have not been listening to them. It's
bad for a project if it allows that to happen too much, it tells people
who ARE team players that their team skills are not appreciated. So
every good project has a process for deciding that it can't work with
someone any more. You are well down that process now, but you haven't
stopped to wonder why!
So I must say the decisions taken by the MOTU council are binding, and
unless the CC chooses to review that position, which I don't think it
will, you need to respect them. In time, I'm sure folks will welcome you
if you demonstrate that you can collaborate with people, and not offend
and irritate people in your communications. It's up to you to prove that
you can do that. People will just ignore you if you shout more, they
will only listen if you talk quietly and have clearly thought a lot, and
listened a lot, and learned a lot, before you talk.
Mark
Marco Rodrigues wrote:
> I would like the MOTU Council to explain me (and maybe for others),
> where I can't participate in Ubuntu, which areas, because Ubuntu
> Development for me It's about packaging, requesting syncs, stuff like
> that.
>
> I think I'm not prevented from doing patches, report bugs, and work in
> Ubuntu BugSquad team (means, bug/patch stuff), Debian Collaborative
> Team, Python Team, and so on.
>
> I want to know this, because today I was banned by Hobbsee from
> #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu, just because I didn't
> saw the words from zul, talking about the latest kernel 2.6.24 was
> final since yesterday. (more at #ubuntu-devel today logs).
>
> I really don't know why this girl thinks she knows everything and can
> decides to prevent someone from staying at IRC Channels or even talking.
>
> This is real bad for a community you call "linux for human beings". I
> think I don't deserve to the threated like that, just because I take
> more time to learn or sometimes don't understand english 100% well
> (not my native language, like australian people can understand it very
> well).
>
> Thanks!
>
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