<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffcc" text="#000000"> Marco, please take a deep breath, and take the trouble to read carefully what people are saying. Everyone wants very much to work with you, but they cannot do that if you don't make the effort to read, and listen, and participate as a team member. You rush, and offend people by your unwillingness to work *together* with folks. We all want Ubuntu to be a success, and I believe that you want the same thing. We want it to be higher quality, more interesting, and deliver the best of the amazing work done by the free software community. But we can't achieve that if some members of the team act without listening. People have been asking you to think more, talk less, learn more, push less, ask more, tell less, and you have not been listening to them. It's bad for a project if it allows that to happen too much, it tells people who ARE team players that their team skills are not appreciated. So every good project has a process for deciding that it can't work with someone any more. You are well down that process now, but you haven't stopped to wonder why! So I must say the decisions taken by the MOTU council are binding, and unless the CC chooses to review that position, which I don't think it will, you need to respect them. In time, I'm sure folks will welcome you if you demonstrate that you can collaborate with people, and not offend and irritate people in your communications. It's up to you to prove that you can do that. People will just ignore you if you shout more, they will only listen if you talk quietly and have clearly thought a lot, and listened a lot, and learned a lot, before you talk. Mark Marco Rodrigues wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:4799EDC7.3090901@sapo.pt" type="cite">I would like the MOTU Council to explain me (and maybe for others), where I can't participate in Ubuntu, which areas, because Ubuntu Development for me It's about packaging, requesting syncs, stuff like that. I think I'm not prevented from doing patches, report bugs, and work in Ubuntu BugSquad team (means, bug/patch stuff), Debian Collaborative Team, Python Team, and so on. I want to know this, because today I was banned by Hobbsee from #ubuntu-bugs, #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-motu, just because I didn't saw the words from zul, talking about the latest kernel 2.6.24 was final since yesterday. (more at #ubuntu-devel today logs). I really don't know why this girl thinks she knows everything and can decides to prevent someone from staying at IRC Channels or even talking. This is real bad for a community you call "linux for human beings". I think I don't deserve to the threated like that, just because I take more time to learn or sometimes don't understand english 100% well (not my native language, like australian people can understand it very well). Thanks! </blockquote> </body> </html>