[lubuntu-users] Let us discuss: Lubuntu alternate iso files are oversized for CD disks

[Israel]

Aere:
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On 06/01/2016 09:13 AM, Aere Greenway wrote:
> On 06/01/2016 05:57 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> ..
>>
> Nio:
>
> Though I wish there were a Lubuntu version that would boot from CD, 
> from what I have seen over the years, if a big effort were made to 
> make this possible, it would most likely be only a temporary victory.
>
> As time goes on, new functionality goes into the kernel, and support 
> for older machines is kept (again, we don't want to abandon those 
> machines), so the kernel keeps getting bigger.  I would not want the 
> kernel developers to remove support for older hardware, so removing 
> older stuff to make room for the new is not (to me) a good idea.
>
They already have removed support for older computers, for example 
computers requiring cmov support in the kernel and also the entire issue 
of pae/non pae.
That is
> Also, in the repository, as more useful things become available, those 
> new things become used, and eventually become essential.  So again, 
> the essential repository components' space on the install CD gradually 
> grows.
>
> So far, even my oldest machines have been able to boot from USB (using 
> Plop), including using the older USB 1.0 ports, which are slow, but 
> not impossibly slow).  My problems with booting from USB have been 
> problems with the USB Creator software.
>
> By the way, you can get USB 2.0 PCI cards (for a desktop), providing 
> faster USB, and they are (were?) inexpensive.  Of course, that doesn't 
> help for a laptop.
>
> Since I need to get the wireless working first on my machines before 
> installing, I prefer to use the live desktop version (rather than the 
> alternate install), so I would probably not use a CD-size alternate 
> install version anyway.
>
> This is, of course, my opinion on the subject.
>
It is possible to boot a USB from some computers via GRUB.
Some older computers do not even initialize the USB ports until much 
later (after the initial BIOS)
So the only option is a CD image.

In those situations users will be require to use the mini iso.
This is problematic, as a Live ISO is a good way to test hardware....


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