[lubuntu-users] lubuntu 16.04.1 Live CD

Neill Rutherford gmail.com neill.rutherford at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 00:43:17 UTC 2016


Walter

If you are asking for information so that the Lubuntu 16.04.1 Live CD 
will actually run on systems like mine then I am all to willing to 
proved any information to assist.

If you see the problem as me not being able to run Lubuntu 16.04 then 
you are trying to solve the wrong problem.

I am running  16.0.1 on this machine which I got by doing a forced 
distro upgrade while waiting for 16.04.1 to be released.

As I have told you I can use the Live CD 14.04 and Xubuntu on this 
machine or my other machine a HP G61 notetbook and the try OS before 
installing works fine. This is not the case with Lubuntu 16.04.1 where 
the graphics get screwed once the desktop appears.

In order to try various distros I of course use a VM Oracle Virtual Box 
and again the graphic are screwed How ever many times I download the ISO.

I state the obvious

1) Lubuntu is recommended as being a good system for beginners and those 
with older low specification machines. (Chris Were You tube) 
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisWereDigital/

2) In order to get people whose hardware falls into the low end of the 
performance spectrum to examine a Linux system people would be advised 
to Try a Live CD and make up their own mind on how suitable that distro 
is to them and their hardware.

3) With those two salient pieces of information it is not unreasonable 
to expect the user to get the latest version of the operation system. 
Which when that was 14.04 there was no problem. However  with 16.04 
there is at least on my type of machines. or VMs.

4) Can you tell me on what hardware the LiveCd "try before you install" 
was tested?

5) Finally it is not *MY PROBLEM *that has to be fixed it is the 
malfunctioning of Lubuntu 16.04 Live CD.  And that is so that potential 
new users can try Lubuntu and have a better experience.

6) I fear that a user experiencing the problem I encountered would 
conclude (wrongly) that Linux Sucks or that his/her equipment is to old 
or slow to run the best OS for old  slow computers.He/she might try 
installing a previous version but that is a BIG might in my opinion.

As I have said I will provide you any information about my system you 
ask for. You might reply with well there is the nomodeset switch. While 
you and I know this the new inexperienced user will not. !4.04 ran out 
of the box and I would expect the same to be true for 16.04.

Here because you asked for this information is my system output.



test at test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ uname -a
Linux test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop 4.4.0-34-generic 
#53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
test at test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS
Release:    16.04
Codename:    xenial
test at test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 
-i vga
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ 
Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02)
     Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics 
Controller [103c:3012]
     Kernel modules: i915, intelfb
00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High 
Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01)
test at test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$

Lubuntu 14.04.5 m5sums match


leads to

it works

switch to 16.04.1 m5sums okay



and get this



the only change is the iso file 14.04.5 works 16.04.1 DOES NOT


On 09/08/16 17:20, Walter Lapchynski wrote:
>
> Neill,
>
> Several people have asked you information to help troubleshoot this 
> problem but from what I can tell you have not provided this 
> information. Without that, it's impossible to fix your problem 
> regardless of how nicely you act or how much you shout. If you want 
> help, answer all the questions asked and try suggestions given.
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2016 9:16 AM, "Neill Rutherford gmail.com 
> <http://gmail.com>" <neill.rutherford at gmail.com 
> <mailto:neill.rutherford at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     yes I do realise that upper case is shouting and i used upper case
>     to get my point across
>
>     what is out there now is just plain bad.
>
>
>     I wish people would concentrate on the problem and get someone to
>     fix it
>
>
>     PLEASE
>
>
>
>     On 09/08/16 10:35, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>>     Hi Neill,
>>
>>     On 8 August 2016 at 23:01, Neill Rutherford gmail
>>     <neill.rutherford at gmail.com <mailto:neill.rutherford at gmail.com>>
>>     wrote:
>>
>>         I'll try to get my point over ONE MORE TIME My computers work
>>         unless i try to run lubuntu 16.04.1 LIve CD.
>>
>>         Xubuntu 16.04 works Lubuntu 14.04 works. Please concentrate
>>         on ONLY the Lubuntu live CD 16.04.1
>>
>>     Do you realise that typing messages in UPPER CASE are akin to
>>     shouting and therefore poor etiquette?
>>
>>     Can I get my point over, one more time? Any live CD needs more
>>     resources to run from CD/DVD than it does to run from hard drive.
>>     Your problem may simply be that your computer doesn't have enough
>>     resources to run a Lubuntu live CD/DVD. OTOH, there are various
>>     isos for Lubuntu - there is "alternate" which is used only for
>>     installs, never as a live CD/DVD - are you trying to use
>>     "alternate"? If so, please try using the "desktop" iso as that is
>>     intended to act as a live CD/DVD, if required.
>>
>>         I thank you but it sounds like there will not be a corrected
>>         LIVE CD produced for some time,  may be never
>>
>>     OK
>>
>>         THIS IS A BAD ADVERT FOR LUBUNTU
>>
>>     I doubt it.
>>
>>     BW,
>>
>>
>>     Ian
>>
>>     -- 
>>     -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org
>>     -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/
>>     <https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/>
>>     -- Free Software page -
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>>
>

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