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    <p>Walter</p>
    <p>If you are asking for information so that the Lubuntu 16.04.1
      Live CD will actually run on systems like mine then I am all to
      willing to proved any information to assist.</p>
    <p>If you see the problem as me not being able to run Lubuntu 16.04
      then you are trying to solve the wrong problem.</p>
    <p> I am running  16.0.1 on this machine which I got by doing a
      forced distro upgrade while waiting for 16.04.1 to be released.</p>
    <p>As I have told you I can use the Live CD 14.04 and Xubuntu on
      this machine or my other machine a HP G61 notetbook and the try OS
      before installing works fine. This is not the case with Lubuntu
      16.04.1 where the graphics get screwed once the desktop appears.</p>
    <p>In order to try various distros I of course use a VM Oracle
      Virtual Box and again the graphic are screwed How ever many times
      I download the ISO.</p>
    <p>I state the obvious <br>
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    <p>1) Lubuntu is recommended as being a good system for beginners
      and those with older low specification machines. (Chris Were You
      tube) <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisWereDigital/">https://www.reddit.com/r/ChrisWereDigital/</a></p>
    <p>2) In order to get people whose hardware falls into the low end
      of the performance spectrum to examine a Linux system people would
      be advised to Try a Live CD and make up their own mind on how
      suitable that distro is to them and their hardware.</p>
    <p>3) With those two salient pieces of information it is not
      unreasonable to expect the user to get the latest version of the
      operation system. Which when that was 14.04 there was no problem.
      However  with 16.04 there is at least on my type of machines. or
      VMs.</p>
    <p>4) Can you tell me on what hardware the LiveCd "try before you
      install" was tested?</p>
    <p>5) Finally it is not <b>MY PROBLEM </b>that has to be fixed it
      is the malfunctioning of Lubuntu 16.04 Live CD.  And that is so
      that potential new users can try Lubuntu and have a better
      experience.<br>
    </p>
    <p>6) I fear that a user experiencing the problem I encountered
      would conclude (wrongly) that Linux Sucks or that his/her
      equipment is to old or slow to run the best OS for old  slow
      computers.He/she might try installing a previous version but that
      is a BIG might in my opinion.</p>
    <p>As I have said I will provide you any information about my system
      you ask for. You might reply with well there is the nomodeset
      switch. While you and I know this the new inexperienced user will
      not. !4.04 ran out of the box and I would expect the same to be
      true for 16.04.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Here because you asked for this information is my system output.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><img src="cid:part2.1801E43D.7D480F87@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>test@test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ uname -a<br>
      Linux test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop 4.4.0-34-generic
      #53-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 27 16:06:39 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64
      GNU/Linux<br>
      test@test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ lsb_release -a<br>
      No LSB modules are available.<br>
      Distributor ID:    Ubuntu<br>
      Description:    Ubuntu 16.04.1 LTS<br>
      Release:    16.04<br>
      Codename:    xenial<br>
      test@test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ lspci -nnk | grep
      -A 3 -i vga<br>
      00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation
      82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02)<br>
          Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company 82945G/GZ Integrated
      Graphics Controller [103c:3012]<br>
          Kernel modules: i915, intelfb<br>
      00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family
      High Definition Audio Controller [8086:27d8] (rev 01)<br>
      test@test-HP-Compaq-dc7600-Ultra-slim-Desktop:~$ <br>
      <br>
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    <p><img src="cid:part3.9216202D.A9FA68AB@gmail.com" alt=""
        height="821" width="1051"></p>
    <p>Lubuntu 14.04.5 m5sums match<br>
    </p>
    <p><img src="cid:part4.2DFB247A.02E242BD@gmail.com" alt=""></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>leads to</p>
    <p><img src="cid:part5.419E068C.AC217B3C@gmail.com" alt=""
        height="572" width="678"></p>
    <p>it works</p>
    <p>switch to 16.04.1 m5sums okay<br>
    </p>
    <img src="cid:part6.4BE0F4AC.8DB01D5D@gmail.com" alt=""><br>
    <br>
    and get this<br>
    <br>
    <img src="cid:part7.C5F0ADED.935A070D@gmail.com" alt=""><br>
    <br>
    the only change is the iso file 14.04.5 works 16.04.1 DOES NOT<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/08/16 17:20, Walter Lapchynski
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAFe_ewjJDrLDM7u3zvvnRYpsyBJY84i6Nes_jbs_e966KciC9w@mail.gmail.com"
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      <p dir="ltr">Neill, </p>
      <p dir="ltr">Several people have asked you information to help
        troubleshoot this problem but from what I can tell you have not
        provided this information. Without that, it's impossible to fix
        your problem regardless of how nicely you act or how much you
        shout. If you want help, answer all the questions asked and try
        suggestions given. </p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 9, 2016 9:16 AM, "Neill
          Rutherford <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://gmail.com">gmail.com</a>"
          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:neill.rutherford@gmail.com">neill.rutherford@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br type="attribution">
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              <p>yes I do realise that upper case is shouting and i used
                upper case to get my point across <br>
              </p>
              <p>what is out there now is just plain bad.</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>I wish people would concentrate on the problem and get
                someone to fix it <br>
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              <p>PLEASE</p>
              <p><br>
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              <div>On 09/08/16 10:35, Ian Bruntlett wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Hi Neill,<br>
                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On 8 August 2016 at 23:01,
                      Neill Rutherford gmail <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:neill.rutherford@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">neill.rutherford@gmail.com</a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
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                          <p>I'll try to get my point over ONE MORE TIME
                            My computers work unless i try to run
                            lubuntu 16.04.1 LIve CD.</p>
                          <p>Xubuntu 16.04 works Lubuntu 14.04 works.
                            Please concentrate on ONLY the Lubuntu live
                            CD 16.04.1</p>
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                      <div>Do you realise that typing messages in UPPER
                        CASE are akin to shouting and therefore poor
                        etiquette?<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Can I get my point over, one more time? Any
                        live CD needs more resources to run from CD/DVD
                        than it does to run from hard drive. Your
                        problem may simply be that your computer doesn't
                        have enough resources to run a Lubuntu live
                        CD/DVD. OTOH, there are various isos for Lubuntu
                        - there is "alternate" which is used only for
                        installs, never as a live CD/DVD - are you
                        trying to use "alternate"? If so, please try
                        using the "desktop" iso as that is intended to
                        act as a live CD/DVD, if required.<br>
                        <br>
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                          <p>I thank you but it sounds like there will
                            not be a corrected LIVE CD produced for some
                            time,  may be never</p>
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                      <div>OK <br>
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                          <p>THIS IS A BAD ADVERT FOR LUBUNTU</p>
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                      <div>I doubt it. <br>
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                      <div>BW,<br>
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                      <div>Ian<br clear="all">
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