14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

[John Hupp]

It's now been 3 full days, and I have not been notified about any 
available updates yet.  A manual run of Software Updater now shows 4.3 
MB available.  So it does not seem that the delay is due to phased 
updates, but that the bug 1046563 is still active here.

@bapoumba, you seemed to have the same problem.  Any new observations?

And of course, there is also the other issue in the discussion at 
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325 -- the discrepancy 
between updates found by update-manager and by Synaptic or apt-get 
upgrade -- and I don't know of a bug report in connection with that.  I 
have not myself seen this second issue. Apt-get upgrade current offers 
4.3 MB of upgrades, just as Software Updater does.

On 5/8/2014 12:43 PM, John Hupp wrote:
> OK, I'm in good position to test whether this is the old bug at work 
> or simply phased updates working properly.  I just ran Software 
> Updater manually and it identified 683 KB of updates available for the 
> Lubuntu Base.  I did not install the updates, so within 2.5 days I 
> should be notified that there are updates available.
>
> On 5/8/2014 8:26 AM, bapoumba wrote:
>> Ah very very good point 
>> :http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html 
>> <http://people.canonical.com/%7Eubuntu-archive/phased-updates.html>
>> the iputils packages are showing up on that page.
>> Thank you much, I always forget about phase updates..
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dale Visser <dale.visser at live.com 
>> <mailto:dale.visser at live.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     You may just be encountering "phased updates" for the first time
>>     in this version:
>>     http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
>>
>>     It takes 2.5 days for a new phased update to roll out to all
>>     users. Apt-get bypasses the delays and gets everything that can
>>     be updated.
>>
>>     Sent from my Windows Phone
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     From: bapoumba <mailto:bapoumba at ubuntu.com>
>>     Sent: ?5/?8/?2014 5:50 AM
>>     To: John Hupp <mailto:lubuntu at prpcompany.com>
>>     Cc: lubuntu user list <mailto:lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>     Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with
>>     update-manager/notifier
>>
>>     Hello,
>>
>>     thanks for the email, I was about to post one.
>>
>>     First off, I'd like to apologize for silently joining the list a
>>     few weeks back. So hello, you'll mainly find me on the forums :)
>>
>>     I've added a few things to the forums thread, and linked the bug
>>     report here
>>     https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main
>>     <https://code.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/update-manager/main>
>>     I've also added "trusty" to the title.
>>
>>     Now I'm not that familiar with update-manager (software-updater)
>>     and not sure where to look at to troubleshoot and add useful
>>     information.
>>     To me, the biggest issue is the discrepancy between apt-get
>>     upgrade and software updater.
>>
>>     Would anyone know ?
>>
>>     Have a good day !
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:13 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com
>>     <mailto:lubuntu at prpcompany.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I don't find the issue in the Lubuntu or Ubuntu 14.04 Release
>>         Notes, but it seems like 14.04 is subject to
>>         https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563
>>         <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563>,
>>         reported for 12.04, in which automatic updating fails.
>>
>>         I was noticing that I wasn't being prompted to install
>>         software updates.  I ran Software Updater (update-manager)
>>         manually once and got a big batch of updates.  I ran it
>>         manually again today and it identified another batch that I
>>         could get.  It included updates for Software Updater, so
>>         perhaps that will fix the problem.
>>
>>         There is a big discussion of the problem at
>>         http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325
>>         <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325>. And
>>         beyond the notification problem, a number of people report
>>         seeing big differences between the updates identified by
>>         update-manager and Synaptic.
>>
>>
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>>     bapoumba
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