14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

bapoumba bapoumba at ubuntu.com
Mon May 12 10:09:38 UTC 2014

Hello !

On Sun, 11 May 2014 20:07:35 +0200, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com>  

> It's now been 3 full days, and I have not been notified about any  
> available updates yet.  A manual run of Software Updater now shows 4.3  
> MB available.  So it does >not seem that the delay is due to phased  
> updates, but that the bug 1046563 is still active here.
> @bapoumba, you seemed to have the same problem.  Any new observations?
As I mentioned in the forums thread, some of the packages I had spotted  
have shown up in update-notifier. I'm keeping an eye on this and will  
report again if packages are not being pushed in update-notifier after the  
3-4 days watch period when no bugs or issues are reported.
Of course, the upgrade process will explicitly be stopped in  
update-notifier if bugs are reported.
I'll have a closer look later tonight (I'm UTC +1).


> And of course, there is also the other issue in the discussion at  
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325 -- the discrepancy  
> between updates found >by update-manager and by Synaptic or apt-get  
> upgrade -- and I don't know of a bug report in connection with that.  I  
> have not myself seen this second issue.  Apt->get upgrade current offers  
> 4.3 MB of upgrades, just as Software Updater does.
> On 5/8/2014 12:43 PM, John Hupp wrote:
>> OK, I'm in good position to test whether this is the old bug at work or  
>> simply phased updates working properly.  I just ran Software Updater  
>> >>manually and it identified 683 KB of updates available for the  
>> Lubuntu Base.  I did not install the updates, so within 2.5 days I  
>> should be notified >>that there are updates available.
>> On 5/8/2014 8:26 AM, bapoumba wrote:
>>> Ah very very good point  
>>> :http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/phased-updates.htmlthe  
>>> iputils packages are showing up on that page.
>>> Thank you much, I always forget about phase updates..
>>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dale Visser <dale.visser at live.com>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> You may just be encountering "phased updates" for the first time in  
>>>> this version:  
>>>> http://>>>>www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/phased-updates-to-start-rolling-out-for-ubuntu-13-04
>>>> It takes 2.5 days for a new phased update to roll out to all users.  
>>>> Apt-get bypasses the delays and gets everything that >>>>can be  
>>>> updated.
>>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>>>> From: bapoumba
>>>> Sent: ‎5/‎8/‎2014 5:50 AM
>>>> To: John Hupp
>>>> Cc: lubuntu user list
>>>> Subject: Re: 14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with  
>>>> update-manager/notifier
>>>> Hello,
>>>> thanks for the email, I was about to post one.
>>>> First off, I'd like to apologize for silently joining the list a few  
>>>> weeks back. So hello, you'll mainly find me on the forums :)
>>>> I've added a few things to the forums thread, and linked the bug  
>>>> report here  
>>>> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/>>>>update-manager/main
>>>> I've also added "trusty" to the title.
>>>> Now I'm not that familiar with update-manager (software-updater) and  
>>>> not sure where to look at to troubleshoot and add useful  
>>>> >>>>information.
>>>> To me, the biggest issue is the discrepancy between apt-get upgrade  
>>>> and software updater.
>>>> Would anyone know ?
>>>> Have a good day !
>>>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:13 PM, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com>  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I don't find the issue in the Lubuntu or Ubuntu 14.04 Release Notes,  
>>>>> but it seems like 14.04 is subject to  
>>>>> https://>>>>>bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563,  
>>>>> reported for 12.04, in which automatic updating fails.
>>>>> I was noticing that I wasn't being prompted to install software  
>>>>> updates.  I ran Software Updater (update-manager) manually once  
>>>>> >>>>>and got a big batch of updates.  I ran it manually again today  
>>>>> and it identified another batch that I could get.  It included  
>>>>> updates >>>>>for Software Updater, so perhaps that will fix the  
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> There is a big discussion of the problem at  
>>>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325. And beyond the  
>>>>> notification >>>>>problem, a number of people report seeing big  
>>>>> differences between the updates identified by update-manager and  
>>>>> Synaptic.
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>>>> --bapoumba
>>> --bapoumba

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