Why is lubuntu-artwork not being updated in Trusty?

Pierre Gobin lubuntu at pierregobin.fr
Mon Jun 16 15:22:53 UTC 2014


Hi Rafael,

I understand that we have to freeze artwork for each release. But I 
wondered if we could hope to have some artwork bug fixes in Lubuntu 
14.04.1 (I am thinking to monochrome icon in lxpanel) ?


Le 10/06/2014 18:05, Rafael Laguna a écrit :
> We make things for a reason. When we create new icons, themes, apps or 
> whatever, they are intended to be part of the system you have on your 
> home. But sometimes we need to experiment, or make tests, or just 
> ensure what we do does not affect a massive amount of computers.
>
> Box is part of Lubuntu, yes. But it's a standalone theme too, if you 
> use another Linux distro. Also, I add lots of new icons and make 
> changes in the GTK theme. Imagine the situation that I modify 
> something that breaks the system on thousands of computers (it 
> happened, trust me). Before we push the changes onto Ubuntu's main 
> repos we have to be really really sure it works as expected.
>
> That's the reason I have a separate PPA for artwork. The same about 
> the staging apps. When you download a system you expect it keeps 
> stable and not changing daily. And we're Artwork Team. We cannot login 
> in Canonical's servers everyday and say "hey, I'm going to change some 
> stuff, so your ISOs may change size and stability and package 
> dependencies". There's a complex structure and there're protocols in 
> the way we work.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
> 2014-06-10 17:44 GMT+02:00 N. W. <nw9165-0219653 at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:nw9165-0219653 at yahoo.com>>:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     > Rafael Laguna wrote:
>     >
>     > Its' normal that an independent
>     > development (the Unified Box for Linux) goes further than
>     > the official updates (the Ubuntu repositories).
>
>     I do not consider lubuntu-artwork to be independent from Lubuntu. When
>     I install Lubuntu, I want to receive updates to lubuntu-artwork
>     (and by
>     default and automatically). Lubuntu ships with lubuntu-artwork by
>     default, so why shouldn't I receive updates for lubuntu-artwork by
>     default? Why do I have to search and add a PPA?
>
>     > Rafael Laguna wrote:
>     >
>     > The version updated is 0.47 and you'll receive that
>     > version via the Artwork Daily PPA.
>
>     That does not answer my question. Why do I have to add this PPA to a
>     Lubuntu installation? Why isn't it added by default or why isn't
>     lubuntu-artwork receiving updates by default (without having to add
>     this PPA)?
>
>     We're not talking about a third party GTK+ / icon theme here. We're
>     talking about the Box icon theme / Box GTK+ theme, the official theme
>     of an offical Ubuntu spin. I consider this to be quite a difference.
>
>     By the way:
>
>     I also do not understand why I have to search for and have to add
>     a PPA
>     to receive those updates:
>
>     https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2014-May/007478.html
>     https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/staging
>     <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-dev/+archive/staging>
>
>     Why can't this just be added to Lubuntu by default?
>
>     If you ask me, you really should release a new ISO with those things
>     being added / updating by default ASAP.
>
>     Just saying...
>
>     Regards
>
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