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[Phill Whiteside]

Jonathan,

I never said it was do-able, on the docs area we are currently discussing
man pages... Oddly enough they are linked in an abstract way. My thoughts
are along your lines, as to if this is possible is doubtful. But stating
"it is the way we have always done things" is not the answer. I'd like this
discussion to continue, as it just makes sense to do it that way.

I've not trialled ubuntu 13.10 out, so with all their lenses etc. I cannot
state what order they list applications by.

As a separate note, do you still have the facilities to make a community
re-spin of an ISO?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1227202 needs an ISO
spinning to see if the zram bug is solved.

Regards,

Phill.



On 21 September 2013 04:41, Jonathan Marsden <jmarsden at fastmail.fm> wrote:

> On 09/20/2013 08:30 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> > by the same argument, does a new comer want to see "Use this for
> > documents" and "use this for spreadsheets"... a new comer will look at
> > the menu and look for "What it does". I do believe this discussion
> > should be taken further as we are expecting windoze 98 people to be
> > using lubuntu.
> >
> > In this case, it should be "what it does" followed by "what it is"....
>
> Oh, which comes first (name or function) is a separate issue.  All I was
> saying is that different kinds of users expect both of those pieces of
> information, so having both of them in the menu label seems appropriate,
> and that is what mtpaint currently does.
>
> If you want to argue for something more like:
>
>   Graphics Editor (mtpaint)
>
> that's fine, at least it still includes the program name and so is
> distinguishable from (for example):
>
>   Graphics Editor (gimp)
>
> One issue I see here is that, as I currently understand it, these labels
> are in files currently installed as part of each package, so to change
> them, you would want to persuade each package maintainer to make that
> change... which is a LOT of work!  Further, if Lubuntu decides that we
> want "Function (name)", but Ubuntu decides they want "Function", guess
> which one most package maintainers will use :)  Technically, we might be
> able to maintain our own database of the menu labels we want and use
> something fix them up after installation, but that seems ugly, and prone
> to political trouble from package maintainers who could probably claim
> we are overriding their express intent...
>
> I'd say we leave any package that has both application name and function
> in its label alone, and focus on ones that lack one of those in their
> menu label... just to shrink the scale of the task.
>
> Jonathan
>
>


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