Installing 13.10 on older laptop PIII 1.14 GHz, 512 MB RAM

Wed Jul 24 03:16:27 UTC 2013

Hey -you guys are GREAT !!

I put PLoP on diskette & the Saucy Salamander Daily Build .iso on USB and
successfully booted off USB.

So I was able to boot from USB this time because PLoP uses *Force USB
1.1 *which
ignores the EHCI controller?

Couldn't read any of the* Install* screens (garbled) but had wiped the HD
with DBAN before hand so I just kept hitting enter (blew right thru the
user/password screen).

System was not very stable, in fact wouldn't shutdown or boot up.

So I tried again & reached the first garbled screen - assume the
*language*screen, I moved the cursor around & the desktop appeared
with a shortcut to
install Lubuntu.

This time all the *Install* screens were legible.  Proceeded normally - eh
Viola, we have Saucy sign.

Looks good, only 94MB RAM in use.  Wireless yet to install.

Like the psychedelic Lubuntu Logo :)

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Nio Wiklund <nio.wiklund at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yes, I think most of us prefer using CD/DVD/USB, but as stated
>
> "I suspect some old CD drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in
> this machine is somewhat erratic"
>
> In such cases (and the computer has USB but cannot boot directly from
> it) Plop and floppy can be the solution.
>
> Best regards
> Nio
>
> On 2013-07-23 04:44, Andre Rodovalho wrote:
> > floppy? I prefer using CDs, Hirens Boots CD has PLOP Boot Manager:
> > http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
> >
> >
> > 2013/7/22 Richie Bloss <sneydblois at gmail.com <mailto:
> sneydblois at gmail.com>>
> >
> >     Hi, currently on 12.04 & just discovered it's not LTS (like Ubuntu),
> >     so might as well go with Saucy.
> >
> >     I just got the Bluetooth (Bluez) devices working, the laptop
> >     entering sleep mode when closing lid & WiFi working.  So why not
> >     install 13.10 & do it all over again.
> >
> >
> >     Last year I was unsuccessful installing 12.04 from CD, the install
> >     froze each & every time. Remember trying several of the options:
> >     acpi=off, noapic, etc. Do not remember everything I tried but really
> >     had no idea what i was doing anyway - still don't :).  Did create a
> >     thread on the Ubuntu forums but can't get to it right now, forums
> down.
> >
> >     11.10 installs just fine.  I only have a CD drive & the machine does
> >     not support boot from USB.
> >
> >
> >     Here is an email, I saved, from the Lubuntu mailing list a while
> back:
> >
> >
> ***************************************************************************
> >     / We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I
> >     >     > believe there is more to this than just RAM size. I suspect
> some
> >     >     old CD
> >     >     > drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in this
> machine is
> >     >     > somewhat erratic.
> >     >
> >     >     Therefore we need to recommend the usage of usb live sticks.
> >     >     CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
> >     >     drives tend to fail and also cd/dvd-writers tend to write
> cd-rs with
> >     >     to much
> >     >     errors.
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > Hello Leszek,
> >     >
> >     > You may forgot that some old machines don't really have USB Ports.
> If
> >     > these have, the machine doesn't boot from that USB and not everyone
> >     > knows about *PLOP*, and yes, we are talking about the new and
> beginners users.
> >     >
> >     > I do agree that LiveUSB makes a lot of difference indeed as far as
> I've
> >     > seen for the last 2 years for so many tests I have personally done.
> >     > However, the classic and the standard approach, IMHO, shall be the
> *LiveCD.*/
> >     **
> >     **
> >     / the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is
> for
> >     > this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)/
> >
> **************************************************************************
> >
> >
> >     Plop sounds interesting.  I do have a floppy drive that has barely
> >     been used.  Could I create a floppy disk image (plpbt.img?) & boot
> >     from that?  Do I have enough floppy's?
> >
> >     Before I begin thought perhaps I might post here & ask for
> >     suggestions regarding the best way to get the 13.10 install going on
> >     an old P3 that has only CD & will not boot from USB?
> >
> >     Some months back on the Lubuntu Facebook group someone (Phill I
> >     think) suggested an alternate method for installing Lubuntu with a
> >     feature at that time unsupported by Lubuntu.  This was for machines
> >     that had trouble with normal installs from LiveCD.
> >
> >     What about the Minimal Install even tho I see that's applies to PC's
> >     with 1/4 the RAM?  Would that make my PC even faster?
> >
> >
> >     On another note:
> >     Have been setting swappiness value to 10 which helps - not
> >     completely sure how zRAM & swappiness differ.  Low values of
> >     swappiness avoid swapping memory to the swap partition as much as
> >     possible whereas zRAM creates a compressed swap partition in RAM,
> >     does that sound right?
> >     zRAM appears to make the old P3 faster than swappiness.
> >     Would there be further benefit setting swappiness down to 10 (or 0)
> >     with zRAM installed?
> >     Came across a confusing askubuntu thread thread suggesting:
> >     /zRam is useful for people using computers with 1GB or 2GB RAM.
> >     Since zRam is compressing data, it require some processor resources.
> >     Not much, but always. For that reason i do not recommend to use it
> >     with old processors/.
> >     That seems contradictory to the stated objective for zRAM in 13.10.
> >
> >
> >     Sorry if this is too many questions.
> >
> >     thanks
> >
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