Fwd: Installing 13.10 on older laptop PIII 1.14 GHz, 512 MB RAM

Tue Jul 23 13:44:42 UTC 2013

Should have hit reply "all" on this yesterday.  Think a minimal install
will the best way to learn.

thanks,
richie bloss

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Richie Bloss <sneydblois at gmail.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: Installing 13.10 on older laptop PIII 1.14 GHz, 512 MB RAM
To: Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>

Hi, thanks for Hiren's.  First think I'm going to give the minimal install
a shot.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Andre Rodovalho
<andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>wrote:

> floppy? I prefer using CDs, Hirens Boots CD has PLOP Boot Manager:
> http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/
>
>
> 2013/7/22 Richie Bloss <sneydblois at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi, currently on 12.04 & just discovered it's not LTS (like Ubuntu), so
>> might as well go with Saucy.
>>
>> I just got the Bluetooth (Bluez) devices working, the laptop entering
>> sleep mode when closing lid & WiFi working.  So why not install 13.10 & do
>> it all over again.
>>
>>
>> Last year I was unsuccessful installing 12.04 from CD, the install froze
>> each & every time. Remember trying several of the options: acpi=off, noapic,
>> etc. Do not remember everything I tried but really had no idea what i was
>> doing anyway - still don't :).  Did create a thread on the Ubuntu forums
>> but can't get to it right now, forums down.
>>
>> 11.10 installs just fine.  I only have a CD drive & the machine does not
>> support boot from USB.
>>
>>
>> Here is an email, I saved, from the Lubuntu mailing list a while back:
>>
>>
>> ***************************************************************************
>> * We need to run Saucy installs on as much hardware as possible as I
>> >     > believe there is more to this than just RAM size. I suspect some
>> >     old CD
>> >     > drives aren't really up to it. I know the one in this machine is
>> >     > somewhat erratic.
>> >
>> >     Therefore we need to recommend the usage of usb live sticks.
>> >     CD-ROM/DVD-ROM
>> >     drives tend to fail and also cd/dvd-writers tend to write cd-rs with
>> >     to much
>> >     errors.
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello Leszek,
>> >
>> > You may forgot that some old machines don't really have USB Ports. If
>> > these have, the machine doesn't boot from that USB and not everyone
>> > knows about PLOP, and yes, we are talking about the new and beginners
>> users.
>> >
>> > I do agree that LiveUSB makes a lot of difference indeed as far as I've
>> > seen for the last 2 years for so many tests I have personally done.
>> > However, the classic and the standard approach, IMHO, shall be the
>> LiveCD.*
>> **
>> **
>> * the BIG change with Saucy is the recent inclusion of ZRam, it is for
>> > this reason we are re-testing "how low can it go" :)*
>> **************************************************************************
>>
>>
>> Plop sounds interesting.  I do have a floppy drive that has barely been
>> used.  Could I create a floppy disk image (plpbt.img?) & boot from that?
>>  Do I have enough floppy's?
>>
>> Before I begin thought perhaps I might post here & ask for suggestions
>> regarding the best way to get the 13.10 install going on an old P3 that has
>> only CD & will not boot from USB?
>>
>> Some months back on the Lubuntu Facebook group someone (Phill I
>> think) suggested an alternate method for installing Lubuntu with a feature
>> at that time unsupported by Lubuntu.  This was for machines that had
>> trouble with normal installs from LiveCD.
>>
>> What about the Minimal Install even tho I see that's applies to PC's with
>> 1/4 the RAM?  Would that make my PC even faster?
>>
>>
>> On another note:
>> Have been setting swappiness value to 10 which helps - not completely
>> sure how zRAM & swappiness differ.  Low values of swappiness avoid swapping
>> memory to the swap partition as much as possible whereas zRAM creates a
>> compressed swap partition in RAM, does that sound right?
>> zRAM appears to make the old P3 faster than swappiness.
>> Would there be further benefit setting swappiness down to 10 (or 0) with
>> zRAM installed?
>> Came across a confusing askubuntu thread thread suggesting:
>> *zRam is useful for people using computers with 1GB or 2GB RAM. Since
>> zRam is compressing data, it require some processor resources. Not much,
>> but always. For that reason i do not recommend to use it with old processors
>> *.
>> That seems contradictory to the stated objective for zRAM in 13.10.
>>
>>
>> Sorry if this is too many questions. [?]
>>
>> thanks
>>
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