Lubuntu alternative sessions script

Jop com.boy.jop at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 08:32:49 UTC 2013


Most Windows users generally want (almost) the same experience forever. 
Look at the public outrage at Windows 8.

Jop

Op 07-07-13 19:53, Andre Rodovalho schreef:
> Pretty cool in my opinion, Federico! I guess that blended so nice with 
> Lubuntu default theme... There is not an option to set opacity?
>
> I guess we must try some, and figure it out which of them has the best 
> cost benefit. I can help you with some basic tests...
>
> And about the adoption, it dosen't have to be an official package, 
> there is space for that. It's a good idea, many users, even those who 
> migrated from XP are looking for an different expirience...
>
>
> 2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <effelle at gmail.com <mailto:effelle at gmail.com>>
>
>     Ok folks,
>
>     I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a
>     good OSX environment without composite manager.
>     I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. I think the last one
>     should be the better choice because Is simple to configure via
>     conf  files, even without composite is usable and has a minimum
>     impact, 15 mb  more-less. Add launcher is quite easy too.
>     Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but
>     the system will be more snappy. Note that the CPU usage is not 35%
>     as in the screenshot but just 3%. Bad timing!
>
>     What do you think?
>
>     F.
>
>     http://www.flickr.com/photos/effenobrazil/with/9232040820/lightbox/
>
>     Em 07/07/2013 11:39, "Federico Leoni" <effelle at gmail.com
>     <mailto:effelle at gmail.com>> escreveu:
>
>         Ok folks,
>         I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a
>         good
>         OSX environment without composite manager.
>         I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. The last one I think
>         would be
>         the better choice. Is simple to configure via conf  files and even
>         without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb  more
>         less. Add launcher is quite easy too.
>         Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies
>         but the
>         system will be more snappy.
>
>         F.
>
>
>         2013/7/5 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com
>         <mailto:andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>>:
>
>         > Script worked quite nice, but cairo-dock don't like my
>         notebook specs... It
>         > was complaining about OpenGL, and I had to set up some "fake
>         transparency
>         > thing"
>         >
>         > Another thing, Compton on my 13.04 is not stable too.
>         Sometimes it breaks
>         > manu-cache, and the "start" menu gets hidden (I use the
>         panel on the left).
>         > The transparency and shadows sometimes goes to lxpanel
>         too... My configs for
>         > that matter are: "compton -i 0.6 -e 0.6 -f -I 0.065 -O 0.065
>         -D 6 -m 0.9  -G
>         > -b"
>         >
>         > Some SS to clarify
>         >
>         >
>         > 2013/7/5 Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com
>         <mailto:gilir at ubuntu.com>>
>         >>
>         >> 2013/7/5 Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner at web.de
>         <mailto:leszek.lesner at web.de>>:
>         >> > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 21:50:26 schrieb Federico Leoni:
>         >> >> @Julien Lavergne: You right, a package would be a better
>         choice, but
>         >> >> I'm afraid for now I can offer just a dirty worked
>         script. I'm doing
>         >> >> this on my spare time, so give me the time to learn how
>         to do better
>         >> >> things like packages. Then for now I'll continue to
>         create sessions
>         >> >> using my script as a base, if you let me. :)
>         >> >
>         >> > I created a experimental package based on the lxsession
>         changes in 13.10
>         >> > (current bzr tree which is btw. very amazing. Well done
>         Julien and all
>         >> > the
>         >> > other devs working on lxsession)
>         >> > combined with the ideas in the script.
>         >> > It can be tested on the 13.10 alphas / dailies.
>         >> So, you did exactly what I had in mind :-) I happy to see
>         that other
>         >> people are able to use it without many explanations :-)
>         >>
>         >> > The only small change I did to the script is not
>         depending and
>         >> > defaulting to
>         >> > the faenza icon theme. Its a very big theme here and I
>         don't think it
>         >> > makes
>         >> > sense depending on it when we already have a very good
>         looking one.
>         >> > For the gtk theme like in the script I used clearlooks
>         but I would
>         >> > rather also
>         >> > stick to the default here as clearlooks does not provide
>         a gtk3 theme
>         >> > (so gtk3
>         >> > apps look ugly).
>         >> > As for Cairo Dock I guess it needs a special
>         configuration as it also
>         >> > creates a
>         >> > virtual workspace switcher in the bottom left by default.
>         Maybe you
>         >> > could
>         >> > create a better config for me to integrate it in this
>         session package.
>         >> > I also think the openbox configuration should be changed
>         so the close
>         >> > maximize
>         >> > and minimize are on the left.
>         >> If it's a text based configuration file, it can be added to
>         lxsession
>         >> conffiles mechanism. I just need the location of the
>         configuration
>         >> file in home directory.
>         >>
>         >> > @Julien:
>         >> > I already shipped a custom config for openbox for
>         positioning the close,
>         >> > maximize and minimize buttons on the left, however
>         openbox does not seem
>         >> > to
>         >> > load this. I guess the /usr/bin/openbox-lubuntu script
>         has still the
>         >> > lubuntu
>         >> > profile hardcoded. Also I am little bit confused about the
>         >> > openbox-custom
>         >> > parameter in the desktop.conf file as it seems to search
>         for a script.
>         >> In desktop.conf, you still using the Lubuntu session for
>         openbox. So,
>         >> it will load the Lubuntu configuration file.
>         >> To do what you want, you have to use openbox-custom as windows
>         >> manager, and put the path of your configuration file into
>         session.
>         >> That's probably not so obvious, so I probably need to make
>         it easier.
>         >>
>         >> > Here is my little testing ppa:
>         >> >
>         https://launchpad.net/~leszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff
>         <https://launchpad.net/%7Eleszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff>
>         >> >
>         >> > Just as a reference. As it uses the changes of the
>         current bzr lxsession
>         >> > it
>         >> > won't run with stock 13.04s lxsession I suppose (I did
>         not test yet but
>         >> > I
>         >> > highly doubt it)
>         >> I confirm this. You should at least use the Lubuntu daily
>         PPA if you
>         >> want to use it on something different that 13.10.
>         >>
>         >> Regards,
>         >> Julien Lavergne
>         >>
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