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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Most Windows users generally want
(almost) the same experience forever. Look at the public outrage
at Windows 8.<br>
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Jop<br>
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Op 07-07-13 19:53, Andre Rodovalho schreef:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Pretty cool in my opinion, Federico! I guess that
blended so nice with Lubuntu default theme... There is not an
option to set opacity?<br>
<br>
I guess we must try some, and figure it out which of them has
the best cost benefit. I can help you with some basic tests...<br>
<br>
And about the adoption, it dosen't have to be an official
package, there is space for that. It's a good idea, many users,
even those who migrated from XP are looking for an different
expirience...<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <span
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<p dir="ltr">Ok folks,</p>
<p dir="ltr">I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a
can recreate a good OSX environment without composite
manager.<br>
I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. I think the last
one should be the better choice because Is simple to
configure via conf files, even without composite is
usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb more-less. Add
launcher is quite easy too.<br>
Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or
transparencies but the system will be more snappy. Note
that the CPU usage is not 35% as in the screenshot but
just 3%. Bad timing!</p>
<p dir="ltr">What do you think?</p>
<p dir="ltr">F.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Em 07/07/2013 11:39, "Federico
Leoni" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Ok folks,<br>
I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can
recreate a good<br>
OSX environment without composite manager.<br>
I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. The last one I
think would be<br>
the better choice. Is simple to configure via conf
files and even<br>
without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15
mb more<br>
less. Add launcher is quite easy too.<br>
Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or
transparencies but the<br>
system will be more snappy.<br>
<br>
F.<br>
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2013/7/5 Andre Rodovalho <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div class="h5"><br>
> Script worked quite nice, but cairo-dock don't
like my notebook specs... It<br>
> was complaining about OpenGL, and I had to set
up some "fake transparency<br>
> thing"<br>
><br>
> Another thing, Compton on my 13.04 is not
stable too. Sometimes it breaks<br>
> manu-cache, and the "start" menu gets hidden (I
use the panel on the left).<br>
> The transparency and shadows sometimes goes to
lxpanel too... My configs for<br>
> that matter are: "compton -i 0.6 -e 0.6 -f -I
0.065 -O 0.065 -D 6 -m 0.9 -G<br>
> -b"<br>
><br>
> Some SS to clarify<br>
><br>
><br>
> 2013/7/5 Julien Lavergne <<a
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href="mailto:gilir@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gilir@ubuntu.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> 2013/7/5 Leszek Lesner <<a
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href="mailto:leszek.lesner@web.de" target="_blank">leszek.lesner@web.de</a>>:<br>
>> > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 21:50:26
schrieb Federico Leoni:<br>
>> >> @Julien Lavergne: You right, a
package would be a better choice, but<br>
>> >> I'm afraid for now I can offer
just a dirty worked script. I'm doing<br>
>> >> this on my spare time, so give me
the time to learn how to do better<br>
>> >> things like packages. Then for now
I'll continue to create sessions<br>
>> >> using my script as a base, if you
let me. :)<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I created a experimental package based
on the lxsession changes in 13.10<br>
>> > (current bzr tree which is btw. very
amazing. Well done Julien and all<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > other devs working on lxsession)<br>
>> > combined with the ideas in the script.<br>
>> > It can be tested on the 13.10 alphas /
dailies.<br>
>> So, you did exactly what I had in mind :-)
I happy to see that other<br>
>> people are able to use it without many
explanations :-)<br>
>><br>
>> > The only small change I did to the
script is not depending and<br>
>> > defaulting to<br>
>> > the faenza icon theme. Its a very big
theme here and I don't think it<br>
>> > makes<br>
>> > sense depending on it when we already
have a very good looking one.<br>
>> > For the gtk theme like in the script I
used clearlooks but I would<br>
>> > rather also<br>
>> > stick to the default here as
clearlooks does not provide a gtk3 theme<br>
>> > (so gtk3<br>
>> > apps look ugly).<br>
>> > As for Cairo Dock I guess it needs a
special configuration as it also<br>
>> > creates a<br>
>> > virtual workspace switcher in the
bottom left by default. Maybe you<br>
>> > could<br>
>> > create a better config for me to
integrate it in this session package.<br>
>> > I also think the openbox configuration
should be changed so the close<br>
>> > maximize<br>
>> > and minimize are on the left.<br>
>> If it's a text based configuration file, it
can be added to lxsession<br>
>> conffiles mechanism. I just need the
location of the configuration<br>
>> file in home directory.<br>
>><br>
>> > @Julien:<br>
>> > I already shipped a custom config for
openbox for positioning the close,<br>
>> > maximize and minimize buttons on the
left, however openbox does not seem<br>
>> > to<br>
>> > load this. I guess the
/usr/bin/openbox-lubuntu script has still the<br>
>> > lubuntu<br>
>> > profile hardcoded. Also I am little
bit confused about the<br>
>> > openbox-custom<br>
>> > parameter in the desktop.conf file as
it seems to search for a script.<br>
>> In desktop.conf, you still using the
Lubuntu session for openbox. So,<br>
>> it will load the Lubuntu configuration
file.<br>
>> To do what you want, you have to use
openbox-custom as windows<br>
>> manager, and put the path of your
configuration file into session.<br>
>> That's probably not so obvious, so I
probably need to make it easier.<br>
>><br>
>> > Here is my little testing ppa:<br>
>> > <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eleszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff"
target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~leszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Just as a reference. As it uses the
changes of the current bzr lxsession<br>
>> > it<br>
>> > won't run with stock 13.04s lxsession
I suppose (I did not test yet but<br>
>> > I<br>
>> > highly doubt it)<br>
>> I confirm this. You should at least use the
Lubuntu daily PPA if you<br>
>> want to use it on something different that
13.10.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Julien Lavergne<br>
>><br>
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