Lubuntu alternative sessions script

Mon Jul 15 21:19:31 UTC 2013

Yes, that's true. But it doesn't means we can't do alternative
sessions, isn't it?
Anyway , I'm trying to learn how to do a  correct deb package and my
main problem is I don't have time to do it. My family and my job
first.
A good link for a nice how-to use dpkg-build for making package would
be much appreciated because 'man dpkg' is not the best for me.
I'll try this week else I'll post a simple script (again) on Ubuntuwiki.

F.

2013/7/8 Jop <com.boy.jop at gmail.com>:
> Most Windows users generally want (almost) the same experience forever. Look
> at the public outrage at Windows 8.
>
> Jop
>
> Op 07-07-13 19:53, Andre Rodovalho schreef:
>
> Pretty cool in my opinion, Federico! I guess that blended so nice with
> Lubuntu default theme... There is not an option to set opacity?
>
> I guess we must try some, and figure it out which of them has the best cost
> benefit. I can help you with some basic tests...
>
> And about the adoption, it dosen't have to be an official package, there is
> space for that. It's a good idea, many users, even those who migrated from
> XP are looking for an different expirience...
>
>
> 2013/7/7 Federico Leoni <effelle at gmail.com>
>>
>> Ok folks,
>>
>> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good OSX
>> environment without composite manager.
>> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. I think the last one should be the
>> better choice because Is simple to configure via conf  files, even without
>> composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb  more-less. Add launcher
>> is quite easy too.
>> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
>> system will be more snappy. Note that the CPU usage is not 35% as in the
>> screenshot but just 3%. Bad timing!
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> F.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/effenobrazil/with/9232040820/lightbox/
>>
>> Em 07/07/2013 11:39, "Federico Leoni" <effelle at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Ok folks,
>>> I'm playing a bit with others docks to see if a can recreate a good
>>> OSX environment without composite manager.
>>> I have tested Docky, Simdock and Plank. The last one I think would be
>>> the better choice. Is simple to configure via conf  files and even
>>> without composite is usable and has a minimum impact, 15 mb  more
>>> less. Add launcher is quite easy too.
>>> Not have a CM means we will not have shadows or transparencies but the
>>> system will be more snappy.
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/7/5 Andre Rodovalho <andre.rodovalho at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> > Script worked quite nice, but cairo-dock don't like my notebook
>>> > specs... It
>>> > was complaining about OpenGL, and I had to set up some "fake
>>> > transparency
>>> > thing"
>>> >
>>> > Another thing, Compton on my 13.04 is not stable too. Sometimes it
>>> > breaks
>>> > manu-cache, and the "start" menu gets hidden (I use the panel on the
>>> > left).
>>> > The transparency and shadows sometimes goes to lxpanel too... My
>>> > configs for
>>> > that matter are: "compton -i 0.6 -e 0.6 -f -I 0.065 -O 0.065 -D 6 -m
>>> > 0.9  -G
>>> > -b"
>>> >
>>> > Some SS to clarify
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/7/5 Julien Lavergne <gilir at ubuntu.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2013/7/5 Leszek Lesner <leszek.lesner at web.de>:
>>> >> > Am Donnerstag, 4. Juli 2013, 21:50:26 schrieb Federico Leoni:
>>> >> >> @Julien Lavergne: You right, a package would be a better choice,
>>> >> >> but
>>> >> >> I'm afraid for now I can offer just a dirty worked script. I'm
>>> >> >> doing
>>> >> >> this on my spare time, so give me the time to learn how to do
>>> >> >> better
>>> >> >> things like packages. Then for now I'll continue to create sessions
>>> >> >> using my script as a base, if you let me. :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I created a experimental package based on the lxsession changes in
>>> >> > 13.10
>>> >> > (current bzr tree which is btw. very amazing. Well done Julien and
>>> >> > all
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > other devs working on lxsession)
>>> >> > combined with the ideas in the script.
>>> >> > It can be tested on the 13.10 alphas / dailies.
>>> >> So, you did exactly what I had in mind :-) I happy to see that other
>>> >> people are able to use it without many explanations :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> > The only small change I did to the script is not depending and
>>> >> > defaulting to
>>> >> > the faenza icon theme. Its a very big theme here and I don't think
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > makes
>>> >> > sense depending on it when we already have a very good looking one.
>>> >> > For the gtk theme like in the script I used clearlooks but I would
>>> >> > rather also
>>> >> > stick to the default here as clearlooks does not provide a gtk3
>>> >> > theme
>>> >> > (so gtk3
>>> >> > apps look ugly).
>>> >> > As for Cairo Dock I guess it needs a special configuration as it
>>> >> > also
>>> >> > creates a
>>> >> > virtual workspace switcher in the bottom left by default. Maybe you
>>> >> > could
>>> >> > create a better config for me to integrate it in this session
>>> >> > package.
>>> >> > I also think the openbox configuration should be changed so the
>>> >> > close
>>> >> > maximize
>>> >> > and minimize are on the left.
>>> >> If it's a text based configuration file, it can be added to lxsession
>>> >> conffiles mechanism. I just need the location of the configuration
>>> >> file in home directory.
>>> >>
>>> >> > @Julien:
>>> >> > I already shipped a custom config for openbox for positioning the
>>> >> > close,
>>> >> > maximize and minimize buttons on the left, however openbox does not
>>> >> > seem
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > load this. I guess the /usr/bin/openbox-lubuntu script has still the
>>> >> > lubuntu
>>> >> > profile hardcoded. Also I am little bit confused about the
>>> >> > openbox-custom
>>> >> > parameter in the desktop.conf file as it seems to search for a
>>> >> > script.
>>> >> In desktop.conf, you still using the Lubuntu session for openbox. So,
>>> >> it will load the Lubuntu configuration file.
>>> >> To do what you want, you have to use openbox-custom as windows
>>> >> manager, and put the path of your configuration file into session.
>>> >> That's probably not so obvious, so I probably need to make it easier.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Here is my little testing ppa:
>>> >> > https://launchpad.net/~leszek-lesner/+archive/testing-stuff
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Just as a reference. As it uses the changes of the current bzr
>>> >> > lxsession
>>> >> > it
>>> >> > won't run with stock 13.04s lxsession I suppose (I did not test yet
>>> >> > but
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > highly doubt it)
>>> >> I confirm this. You should at least use the Lubuntu daily PPA if you
>>> >> want to use it on something different that 13.10.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Julien Lavergne
>>>
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