A few Lubuntu Menu things...

Eric Bradshaw ericbradshaw at computers4christians.org
Wed Dec 18 01:52:52 UTC 2013

Sorry to have sent the below in such haste - it wasn't plain text. Hope I got it right this time:

This morning I installed apps from the Education and Games catagories I'd actually installed before (for my youngest) all from the Lubuntu Software Center (so all in the repos) and added the icon line from the shortcut. I noticed all the misbehaving icons are .xpm files (and I believe all 32x32px). Now, there are plenty of .xpm files for other apps that show fine, but I thought this was interesting and hopefully useful information. The icons I added to the list below all show up roughly twice the size of the others in each sub-menu they appear in.

So here is the list so far:
*Not in repos:*

*in the Repos:*
alsamixergui (not too bad)
Linux Letters and Numbers
Mobile Atlas Creator


PS - To be a bit more methodical, I am thinking about installing absolutely everything available through the Lubuntu Software Center. I'm installing the apps that begin with the letter "A" right now. Someone stop me if the info above makes it unnecessary.

Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:01:33 -0600
From: Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com>
To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: A few Lubuntu Menu things...
Message-ID: <52AF07BD.6010802 at gmail.com>
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Maybe we can simply make new icons for the box icon theme, if there
isn't a simple way to edit the icon size.  But I think imagemagik can
resize things... or at least I think that is what the packaging files
use to make icons.  If you could remember (or find) which ones caused
problems, we could start a list of icons that are unruly, and work on
getting some made up for the Box icon theme, so at least the programs in
the repos wont look awful.  I too remember installing some stuff for my
kids that looked bad, too... but I can't remember what it was.  I also
remember some of the music programs I have used had weird icons.  I am
starting the list with the two programs I have installed currently that
are larger than the usual size.

So here is the list so far:
*Not in repos:*

*in the Repos:*
alsamixergui (not too bad)

On 12/16/2013 12:47 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:

I'd like to chime in with my agreement on the icon sizes in the menu
before the message below gets lost too far down in the shuffle. There
were certain games (and I believe maybe an educational app or two) I
had originally installed for my kids that I then removed specifically
because of icon size. It was more than just not aesthetically
pleasing; my kids would think (know?) there was something "wrong" with
the computer.

If I hadn't been installing a slew of stuff at once (and none of them
were "must have" apps) - and my own kids were the only people I was
worried about installing for; I would've made my own icon (or at least
resized them) for these. I would think what you have to go through
sometimes for .desktop entry files and icon creation would be pretty
scary for a newcomer.


<israeldahl at gmail.com> To: lubuntu user list
<lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: A few Lubuntu Menu things...
Message-ID: <52AC88E8.9050607 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey everyone, there are a few issues I'd like to
address. The first is the Ubuntu SDK and the Core Apps that can be
installed. The menu does not show all the Core Apps. It does show the
browser, however. I cannot seem to find any of the other applications
(i.e. the calculator). I posted a bug about it, but as it received no
attention it expired... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200780

The second is the menu...when an app has a HUGE icon, the menu becomes
ridiculous. I have installed an app called Greenfoot, in hopes of
getting my kids into programming one day. The icon makes the menu take
up approximately 1/4 of the screen. I think there should be a way to
limit the size of icons in the menu, or force icons to display at a
standard size. There are ways to do this in the rules file for debian
packages when making them, so it seems like adding something to the
menu updating script could address this problem. I am not sure how to
do this, or if it is truly possible... but I figured I should post
something here, as there has been a lot of talk about converting
Windows users. And while these issues aren't show stoppers... having
an icon force the menu to take up a large part of the screen would
make the user feel like they are using a buggy OS, that lacks polish.
I know using the box icon theme will address this issue for most
available apps (thank you whoever made the penguin card game icons
look so much better... Rafael?), but Ubuntu is the most popular
GNU/Linux distro and so many third party apps make a deb package for
Ubuntu that can be downloaded and installed from their website (i.e.
Greenfoot). To be fair Unity also shows the greenfoot icon as a huge
blob, but it limits the size shown, and the issue is not present in
the side panel, only the dash when searching for it. People who come
to Lubuntu/Ubuntu will expect an experience similar to their previous
OS, so having something to convert icons to the appropriate size.

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