A few Lubuntu Menu things...

Israel israeldahl at gmail.com
Wed Dec 18 01:06:16 UTC 2013

I will try to make some Box Icons for these apps.  I will install them
as well, I can't believe I forgot to install Childsplay on this
machine.  They really like it a lot.  This gives me a good starting
point for working on some icons!  I have been so busy working on a game
for my daughter that I had gotten sidetracked from icon making...

On 12/17/2013 08:54 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
> This morning I installed apps from the Education and Games catagories I'd actually installed before (for my youngest) all from the Lubuntu Software Center (so all in the repos) and added the icon line from the shortcut. I noticed all the misbehaving icons are .xpm files (and I believe all 32x32px). Now, there are plenty of .xpm files for other apps that show fine, but I thought this was interesting and hopefully useful information. The icons I added to the list below all show up roughly twice the size of the others in each sub-menu they appear in.
> So here is the list so far:
> *Not in repos:*
> Greenfoot
> *in the Repos:*
> meterbridge
> alsamixergui (not too bad)
> Childsplay
> Icon=logo_cp_32x32.xpm
> Dr.geo
> Icon=drgeo_32x32.xpm
> Linux Letters and Numbers
> Icon=lletters.xpm
> Mobile Atlas Creator
> Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/mobile-atlas-creator/mobac.xpm
> Eric
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>> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:01:33 -0600
>> From: Israel <israeldahl at gmail.com>
>> To: lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: Re: A few Lubuntu Menu things...
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>> Maybe we can simply make new icons for the box icon theme, if there
>> isn't a simple way to edit the icon size.  But I think imagemagik can
>> resize things... or at least I think that is what the packaging files
>> use to make icons.  If you could remember (or find) which ones caused
>> problems, we could start a list of icons that are unruly, and work on
>> getting some made up for the Box icon theme, so at least the programs in
>> the repos wont look awful.  I too remember installing some stuff for my
>> kids that looked bad, too... but I can't remember what it was.  I also
>> remember some of the music programs I have used had weird icons.  I am
>> starting the list with the two programs I have installed currently that
>> are larger than the usual size.
>> So here is the list so far:
>> *Not in repos:*
>> Greenfoot
>> *in the Repos:*
>> meterbridge
>> alsamixergui (not too bad)
>> On 12/16/2013 12:47 AM, Eric Bradshaw wrote:
>>> I'd like to chime in with my agreement on the icon sizes in the menu
>>> before the message below gets lost too far down in the shuffle. There
>>> were certain games (and I believe maybe an educational app or two) I
>>> had originally installed for my kids that I then removed specifically
>>> because of icon size. It was more than just not aesthetically
>>> pleasing; my kids would think (know?) there was something "wrong" with
>>> the computer.
>>> If I hadn't been installing a slew of stuff at once (and none of them
>>> were "must have" apps) - and my own kids were the only people I was
>>> worried about installing for; I would've made my own icon (or at least
>>> resized them) for these. I would think what you have to go through
>>> sometimes for .desktop entry files and icon creation would be pretty
>>> scary for a newcomer. Eric ------------------------------ Message: 3
>>> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:35:52 -0600 From: Israel
>>> <israeldahl at gmail.com> To: lubuntu user list
>>> <lubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: A few Lubuntu Menu things...
>>> Message-ID: <52AC88E8.9050607 at gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>> charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey everyone, there are a few issues I'd like to
>>> address. The first is the Ubuntu SDK and the Core Apps that can be
>>> installed. The menu does not show all the Core Apps. It does show the
>>> browser, however. I cannot seem to find any of the other applications
>>> (i.e. the calculator). I posted a bug about it, but as it received no
>>> attention it expired... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1200780 The
>>> second is the menu... when an app has a HUGE icon, the menu becomes
>>> ridiculous. I have installed an app called Greenfoot, in hopes of
>>> getting my kids into programming one day. The icon makes the menu take
>>> up approximately 1/4 of the screen. I think there should be a way to
>>> limit the size of icons in the menu, or force icons to display at a
>>> standard size. There are ways to do this in the rules file for debian
>>> packages when making them, so it seems like adding something to the
>>> menu updating script could address this problem. I am not sure how to
>>> do this, or if it is truly possible... but I figured I should post
>>> something here, as there has been a lot of talk about converting
>>> Windows users. And while these issues aren't show stoppers... having
>>> an icon force the menu to take up a large part of the screen would
>>> make the user feel like they are using a buggy OS, that lacks polish.
>>> I know using the box icon theme will address this issue for most
>>> available apps (thank you whoever made the penguin card game icons
>>> look so much better... Rafael?), but Ubuntu is the most popular
>>> GNU/Linux distro and so many third party apps make a deb package for
>>> Ubuntu that can be downloaded and installed from their website (i.e.
>>> Greenfoot). To be fair Unity also shows the greenfoot icon as a huge
>>> blob, but it limits the size shown, and the issue is not present in
>>> the side panel, only the dash when searching for it. People who come
>>> to Lubuntu/Ubuntu will expect an experience similar to their previous
>>> OS, so having something to convert icons to the appropriate size.
>>> psuedocode: get(app.iconSize){ if (iconSize > maxIconSize)
>>> {resize(iconSize);} else{return;} }
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