Website & download

[kelly]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:14:07 +0200
紳癒礁湖 <rafaellaguna at gmail.com> wrote:

> By alussions. "Less is more" is a great phrase used by Mies van der
> Rohe, but used out of context, by non-designers, means nothing. Sorry
> for being so radical in these terms, but in the real world doing the
> design practice, LESS IS LESS, just it. I have no time or desire to
> explain this (it's a really extended worldwide topic used by art &
> design prophans).

--  The "less is more" as I used it was not used out of context.  You
should truly read up on reading for the web, usable web design and
usability testing.  It might surprise you but people do not want a lot
of 'fluff'.  "Just the facts ma'am" is all they want and preferably in
a bullet format.  http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9710a.html is an
excellent place to start.
> 
> The reason to keep the page simple (not minimal, we're not doing a
> BlackBox fiesta or a CrunchBang Linux page) with the pictograms is
> because we're a flavour of Ubuntu, and it's better to keep the same
> artwork guidelines. I'm really unsatisfied with the result of the page
> (I'm sorry for being so honest). I know the people who uploaded it
> made their best, but 
> such product like a webpage, a very delicate marketing element, need a
> designer for being created.

--  Using that logic, Ubuntu is a direct derivative of Debian.  As such
Ubuntu should be using Debian's guidelines.

--  I do not care if you are "really unsatisfied with the result."  I
am really unsatisfied with the previous edition and think Karl did
an outstanding job fixing an unmitigated mess.

-- The only time a "designer" is needed for a webpage is during the
very initial design (chalk talk time normally).  Once the page is
drafted it is up to the usability people, running usability
tests (with real people brought in to do the testing) on the proposed
webpage to determine what works the best.  In sum, it will be
the people who use, or do not use, the page that ultimately decide a
webpage's fate.
> 
> So I think it's time to talk about it within the members room. It's
> nice to have users opinions, but some things can't be left to
> everybody's intervention, it will become a chaos. Sure you understand
> it. We have a phrase in Spain, "zapatero a tus zapatos" (shoemaker do
> your shoes). Is that the reason for doing Launchpad teams?

--  Oh, back to the old 'we the few know what is best for the many'
syndrome.  That is a crock of crap.

--  What is wrong with a little chaos?  It tends to shake things up
when needed.  Freedom *is* chaos.  Which, I think, is a very good thing.

--  Currently, I don't have any shoes, or boots for that matter, which
need tending too.  However, if I do, I'll be sure to drop you an email
to see if you are available to fix them.  Thanks.

Cya.
-- 
krp
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> 
> 
> El dj 07 de 06 de 2012 a les 20:34 -0600, en/na kelly va escriure:
> 
> > On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:01:29 +0200
> > Geoffrey <computergeoffrey at zoho.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Please keep the icons. I would like to see something between your
> > > proposition and the current page. Make the explanation of the
> > > items shorter & remove the disc icon. The intro text should
> > > also be a lot better. If you have small explanation at the iso's,
> > > you don't need additional info for the low memory systems.
> > > 
> > > Version remove is good. Show only current & link to LTS
> > > version (if the current(12.04) becomes LTS & 12.10 comes out)
> > > 
> > > Smile4ever
> > > 
> > > ---- Aan Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:44:41 +0200 Karl
> > > Anliot<kanliot at gmail.com> schreef ---- 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I really don't like the length of the current download page. So I 
> > > made it much shorter. I think it's just as usable as the current 
> > > page. 
> > > Any objections before I replace the current GetLubuntu page? 
> > >  
> > > here's what I'm planning: 
> > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu_testkarl 
> > >  
> > 
> > Hiya,
> > 
> > I completely disagree about the blasted graphics.  Dump the damn
> > things and good riddance says I.
> > 
> > Less is more.
> > 
> > Cya.
> > 
> > -- 
> > krp
> > 0x8BCBFAB0
> > 
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