[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

Walter Lapchynski wxl at ubuntu.com
Tue May 10 02:22:16 UTC 2016

So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for
LXQt, the voting is as follows:

In favor: 1
Against: 2

How does everyone else vote?
On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Walter,
> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating systems
> running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are
> committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin
> to MediaWiki. Have a look at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO and tell me
> how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side the GTK
> ones...
> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer
> MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give everyone
> just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly
> confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and Julien
> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a
> community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies
> remember them.
> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to when we
> are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the correct version.
> Regards,
> Phill.
> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is
>> better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can
>> have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's
>> less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we
>> let Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being against
>> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire team.
>> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they did
>>> the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the hosting
>>> comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is
>>> best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not compatible with
>>> MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical IS are smarter than
>>> Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so as to help others
>>> facing the nightmare.
>>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll just
>>> go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the upstream
>>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>>> Kindest Regards,
>>> Phill.
>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is to
>>>> continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing the
>>>> scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already on
>>>> Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have
>>>> administrative overhead to deal with.
>>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and
>>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too?
>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Well,
>>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a
>>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one
>>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the
>>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says.
>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
>>>>> Is such a pain in the butt.
>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the
>>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it
>>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set
>>>>>> in place.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Simon Quigley
>>>>>> tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
>>>>>> tsimonq2 on Freenode
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