[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

Phill. Whiteside phillwuk at gmail.com
Tue May 10 02:24:10 UTC 2016

I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone to be
aware of.


On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server for
> LXQt, the voting is as follows:
> In favor: 1
> Against: 2
> How does everyone else vote?
> On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Walter,
>> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating systems
>> running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are
>> committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin
>> to MediaWiki. Have a look at
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO and tell
>> me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side the GTK
>> ones...
>> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer
>> MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give everyone
>> just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly
>> confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and Julien
>> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a
>> community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies
>> remember them.
>> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to when
>> we are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the correct
>> version.
>> Regards,
>> Phill.
>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is
>>> better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can
>>> have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's
>>> less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we
>>> let Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being against
>>> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire team.
>>> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they did
>>>> the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the hosting
>>>> comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is
>>>> best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not compatible with
>>>> MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical IS are smarter than
>>>> Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so as to help others
>>>> facing the nightmare.
>>>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll just
>>>> go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the upstream
>>>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>> Phill.
>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is to
>>>>> continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing the
>>>>> scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already on
>>>>> Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have
>>>>> administrative overhead to deal with.
>>>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and
>>>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too?
>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well,
>>>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a
>>>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one
>>>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the
>>>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says.
>>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
>>>>>> Is such a pain in the butt.
>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the
>>>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it
>>>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set
>>>>>>> in place.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Simon Quigley
>>>>>>> tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com
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