[lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area

Phill. Whiteside phillwuk at gmail.com
Tue May 10 02:18:40 UTC 2016

Hi Walter,

we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating systems
running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas? We are
committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from Moinmoin
to MediaWiki. Have a look at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO and tell me
how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side the GTK

In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer
MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give everyone
just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly
confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and Julien

As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a
community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies
remember them.

There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to when we
are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the correct version.



On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is better
> than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we can have
> someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki, it's less
> for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress site of we let
> Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being against
> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire team.
> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they did
>> the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain and the hosting
>> comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki structure is
>> best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not compatible with
>> MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical IS are smarter than
>> Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so as to help others
>> facing the nightmare.
>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll just
>> go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the upstream
>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
>> Kindest Regards,
>> Phill.
>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote is to
>>> continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working on fixing the
>>> scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki. Everything already on
>>> Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing, we have
>>> administrative overhead to deal with.
>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and
>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too?
>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well,
>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a
>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any one
>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more work in the
>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says.
>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
>>>> Is such a pain in the butt.
>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the
>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue to hack on it
>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already available and set
>>>>> in place.
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