[lubuntu-devel] Alternate Images

Phill. Whiteside phillwuk at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 17:59:44 UTC 2016

Hi Boss,

sadly, the images for alternate are still over sized by about 60 Mb.



On 15 April 2016 at 14:42, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:

> An update :)
> For people who DO need Asian language etc. 'out of the box', the server
> iso does this and a simple apt install lubuntu-desktop pops lubuntu on top
> of it. I'll write a tiny wiki page that mentions this for possibly the one
> person in the world that it may help :)
> Regards,
> Phill.
> On 15 April 2016 at 13:28, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Simon,
>> lubuntu favours older computers. That has the side effect of it running
>> like the wind on newer kit. Last cycle was the first time the alternate and
>> desktop images became different in terms of what was on the finished
>> install. The Desktop image is already a 'DVD ISO' with full language
>> support. The Alternate image does not have this. Our default applications
>> remain the same. Trying to support two versions of lubuntu of the same
>> release is a recipe for confusion and disaster, not to mention we lack the
>> human resources to do so.
>> Do not forget, lubuntu is the only flavour in the family that people with
>> machines that can only boot from CD can turn to. Something I'm proud of.
>> Julien and the release team will support it for so long as it is tested.
>> The massive help with the alternate image is that it is based on the debian
>> installer which is exactly the same as the server image uses, so any bugs
>> (as has happened this cycle), will be kindly looked at by one of the guys
>> who look after the server installer and any lubuntu specific glitches will
>> be addressed by the same nice people. Where this not the case, alternate
>> images would have 'died' a couple of cycles back.
>> If you, or anyone else, fancy rolling up their sleeves, it used to be
>> possible to upgrade using the alternate image. The code is still there, but
>> no one maintains it. I was told that if we were to maintain it, it could be
>> switched back on specifically for lubuntu - which would be a boon for those
>> with several computers to upgrade and who's bandwidth is either expensive
>> or slow.
>> Regards,
>> Phill.
>> On 15 April 2016 at 12:43, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> I'm finding this a bit frustrating at this point...
>>> Why do we attempt to fit everything on to the CD? I realize that there
>>> is a lot of people with just CDs to work with, but that is becoming a
>>> vague minority more slowly every day.
>>> I really like the idea that Debian pursues, we have three different
>>> options should we decide to do this:
>>> 1. We offer additional CD ISOs with extra files to insert during the
>>> installation, and make DVD ISOs separate
>>> 2. Make a DVD ISO that has *everything* we would want for Lubuntu users
>>> and a CD ISO that is more of a minimal install that one could download
>>> for a specific language(Debian doesn't do this but it would certainly
>>> solve the language pack problem with more room to spare)
>>> 3. All of the above
>>> Thoughts?
>>> And BTW Nio, Julien has solved the image problem, waiting for a respin
>>> to confirm, thanks anyways. :)
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