<div dir="ltr">Hi Boss,<div><br></div><div>sadly, the images for alternate are still over sized by about 60 Mb.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 April 2016 at 14:42, Phill. Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">An update :)<div><br></div><div>For people who DO need Asian language etc. 'out of the box', the server iso does this and a simple apt install lubuntu-desktop pops lubuntu on top of it. I'll write a tiny wiki page that mentions this for possibly the one person in the world that it may help :)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 April 2016 at 13:28, Phill. Whiteside <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillwuk@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillwuk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Simon,<div><br></div><div>lubuntu favours older computers. That has the side effect of it running like the wind on newer kit. Last cycle was the first time the alternate and desktop images became different in terms of what was on the finished install. The Desktop image is already a 'DVD ISO' with full language support. The Alternate image does not have this. Our default applications remain the same. Trying to support two versions of lubuntu of the same release is a recipe for confusion and disaster, not to mention we lack the human resources to do so.</div><div><br></div><div>Do not forget, lubuntu is the only flavour in the family that people with machines that can only boot from CD can turn to. Something I'm proud of. Julien and the release team will support it for so long as it is tested. The massive help with the alternate image is that it is based on the debian installer which is exactly the same as the server image uses, so any bugs (as has happened this cycle), will be kindly looked at by one of the guys who look after the server installer and any lubuntu specific glitches will be addressed by the same nice people. Where this not the case, alternate images would have 'died' a couple of cycles back. </div><div><br></div><div>If you, or anyone else, fancy rolling up their sleeves, it used to be possible to upgrade using the alternate image. The code is still there, but no one maintains it. I was told that if we were to maintain it, it could be switched back on specifically for lubuntu - which would be a boon for those with several computers to upgrade and who's bandwidth is either expensive or slow.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 April 2016 at 12:43, Simon Quigley <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tsimonq2@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">tsimonq2@ubuntu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm finding this a bit frustrating at this point...<br>
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Why do we attempt to fit everything on to the CD? I realize that there<br>
is a lot of people with just CDs to work with, but that is becoming a<br>
vague minority more slowly every day.<br>
<br>
I really like the idea that Debian pursues, we have three different<br>
options should we decide to do this:<br>
<br>
1. We offer additional CD ISOs with extra files to insert during the<br>
installation, and make DVD ISOs separate<br>
2. Make a DVD ISO that has *everything* we would want for Lubuntu users<br>
and a CD ISO that is more of a minimal install that one could download<br>
for a specific language(Debian doesn't do this but it would certainly<br>
solve the language pack problem with more room to spare)<br>
3. All of the above<br>
<br>
Thoughts?<br>
<br>
And BTW Nio, Julien has solved the image problem, waiting for a respin<br>
to confirm, thanks anyways. :)<br>
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