[lubuntu-devel] Alternate Images
Phill. Whiteside
phillwuk at gmail.com
Fri Apr 15 13:42:32 UTC 2016
An update :)
For people who DO need Asian language etc. 'out of the box', the server iso
does this and a simple apt install lubuntu-desktop pops lubuntu on top of
it. I'll write a tiny wiki page that mentions this for possibly the one
person in the world that it may help :)
Regards,
Phill.
On 15 April 2016 at 13:28, Phill. Whiteside <phillwuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Simon,
>
> lubuntu favours older computers. That has the side effect of it running
> like the wind on newer kit. Last cycle was the first time the alternate and
> desktop images became different in terms of what was on the finished
> install. The Desktop image is already a 'DVD ISO' with full language
> support. The Alternate image does not have this. Our default applications
> remain the same. Trying to support two versions of lubuntu of the same
> release is a recipe for confusion and disaster, not to mention we lack the
> human resources to do so.
>
> Do not forget, lubuntu is the only flavour in the family that people with
> machines that can only boot from CD can turn to. Something I'm proud of.
> Julien and the release team will support it for so long as it is tested.
> The massive help with the alternate image is that it is based on the debian
> installer which is exactly the same as the server image uses, so any bugs
> (as has happened this cycle), will be kindly looked at by one of the guys
> who look after the server installer and any lubuntu specific glitches will
> be addressed by the same nice people. Where this not the case, alternate
> images would have 'died' a couple of cycles back.
>
> If you, or anyone else, fancy rolling up their sleeves, it used to be
> possible to upgrade using the alternate image. The code is still there, but
> no one maintains it. I was told that if we were to maintain it, it could be
> switched back on specifically for lubuntu - which would be a boon for those
> with several computers to upgrade and who's bandwidth is either expensive
> or slow.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 15 April 2016 at 12:43, Simon Quigley <tsimonq2 at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm finding this a bit frustrating at this point...
>>
>> Why do we attempt to fit everything on to the CD? I realize that there
>> is a lot of people with just CDs to work with, but that is becoming a
>> vague minority more slowly every day.
>>
>> I really like the idea that Debian pursues, we have three different
>> options should we decide to do this:
>>
>> 1. We offer additional CD ISOs with extra files to insert during the
>> installation, and make DVD ISOs separate
>> 2. Make a DVD ISO that has *everything* we would want for Lubuntu users
>> and a CD ISO that is more of a minimal install that one could download
>> for a specific language(Debian doesn't do this but it would certainly
>> solve the language pack problem with more room to spare)
>> 3. All of the above
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> And BTW Nio, Julien has solved the image problem, waiting for a respin
>> to confirm, thanks anyways. :)
>>
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