loco-contacts Digest, Vol 94, Issue 4

Uros urosldp at ubuntu.com
Sun Mar 3 20:00:56 UTC 2013 

We, here, at Serbian LoCo think that any promo material are welcomed,
but stickers and badges are the best. Recently we make action, tnx to
System76 and distribute stickers trough community. Thats was the best
motivational activity just like presentatation.

So if possible we would like to receive any kind of promo material.

On Sun, 2013-03-03 at 18:52 +0000,
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>    1. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases (Pablo Rubianes)
>    2. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
>       (Laura Czajkowski)
>    3. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
>       (Jos? Antonio Rey)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:27:04 -0200
> From: Pablo Rubianes <pablorubianes-uy at ubuntu.com>
> To: jbongaerts at gmail.com,  "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo)
> 	contacts" <loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
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> Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives
> will be a nightmare.
> Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers,
> lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of
> promotion.
> 
> 
> 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com>
> 
> > +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in
> > our LoCo
> >
> >
> > On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman <dscassel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers.  Everybody loves stickers.
> >>
> >> Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and
> >> (especially) brokerage fees.
> >>
> >> Darcy.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu <cracknel.org at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves
> >>> with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be
> >>> able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be
> >>> written about 10 000 times.
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about
> >>> Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously
> >>>> updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu.  They had it
> >>>> installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade.
> >>>> That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the
> >>>> same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now
> >>>> they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would
> >>>> solve that problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a
> >>>> legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I
> >>>> carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for
> >>>> NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, &c. Passing out a burned disk
> >>>> scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't
> >>>> going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make
> >>>> bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be "live", so
> >>>> that people can try Ubuntu without commitment.  Of course, if Canonical
> >>>> were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK
> >>>> too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older
> >>>> computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but
> >>>> their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD.  For those a
> >>>> NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is
> >>>> installed immediately.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to
> >>>> distribute disks or USB keys.  But I have no use for "marketing
> >>>> materials" like pamphlets, flyers and booklets.  Buttons and stickers
> >>>> would be nice, tho.
> >>>>
> >>>> --Bob.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos
> >>>>> have
> >>>>> customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to
> >>>>> sell them and dont let it inside the country.
> >>>>> And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a
> >>>>> collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Pablo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/3/1 Randall Ross <randall at executiv.es>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about
> >>>>>>> having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that
> >>>>>>> this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute
> >>>>>>> every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a
> >>>>>>> good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly
> >>>>>>> bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why
> >>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>> ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a
> >>>>>>> pressed DVD.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds
> >>>>>> used for
> >>>>>> something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing
> >>>>>> materials).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu
> >>>>>> adoption. I
> >>>>>> have also received comments from my local community about their
> >>>>>> negative
> >>>>>> environmental impact and I share those concerns.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Randall.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Alexandru Cucu
> >>>
> >>>
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> Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:44:17 +0000
> From: Laura Czajkowski <laura at lczajkowski.com>
> To: loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
> Message-ID: <51339A01.7010705 at lczajkowski.com>
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> On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote:
> > Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives
> > will be a nightmare.
> > Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers,
> > lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of
> > promotion.
> >
> >
> > 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com>
> >
> >> +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in
> >> our LoCo
> >>
> >>
> How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any
> any time throughout the year -
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences  Is it these stickers folks
> are talking about ? -
> http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
> 
> 
> Laura
> 
> -- 
> Laura Czajkowski 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski
> LoCo Council Member 
> Community Council Member
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:52:19 -0500
> From: Jos? Antonio Rey <joseeantonior at ubuntu.com>
> To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts"
> 	<loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases
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> 
> Same thing happens here. Luckily, Ubuntu-PE hasn't been having
> troubles with CDs/DVDs, but every time they're coming I have to fully
> explain what they're for. Having USB sticks sent would be a much more
> difficult thing, as Pablo said.
> 
> Going back a bit on the thread, some people here still use the
> CDs/DVDs, as they have low bandwidth or even no Internet connection
> where they want to install.
> 
> I would think stickers are a much more affordable and convenient way
> to *promote* Ubuntu. CDs and DVDs aren't used that much to promote,
> but they still serve as a way to demonstrate that you're giving
> something 'official' during events (in case you want to make some
> copies), or when you want to go and show it to universities,
> businesses, and others.
> 
> --
> Jos? Antonio Rey
> 
> 2013/3/3, Pablo Rubianes <pablorubianes-uy at ubuntu.com>:
> > Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives
> > will be a nightmare.
> > Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as
> > stickers,
> > lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of
> > promotion.
> >
> >
> > 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <jbongaerts at gmail.com>
> >
> >> +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards
> >> in
> >> our LoCo
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman <dscassel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers.  Everybody loves stickers.
> >>>
> >>> Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and
> >>> (especially) brokerage fees.
> >>>
> >>> Darcy.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu
> >>> <cracknel.org at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves
> >>>> with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be
> >>>> able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be
> >>>> written about 10 000 times.
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about
> >>>> Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a
> >>>>> continuously
> >>>>> updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu.  They had it
> >>>>> installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade.
> >>>>> That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the
> >>>>> same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now
> >>>>> they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases
> >>>>> would
> >>>>> solve that problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a
> >>>>> legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned.
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for
> >>>>> NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, &c. Passing out a burned disk
> >>>>> scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't
> >>>>> going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make
> >>>>> bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be "live", so
> >>>>> that people can try Ubuntu without commitment.  Of course, if
> >>>>> Canonical
> >>>>> were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK
> >>>>> too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with
> >>>>> older
> >>>>> computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but
> >>>>> their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD.  For those a
> >>>>> NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> installed immediately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to
> >>>>> distribute disks or USB keys.  But I have no use for "marketing
> >>>>> materials" like pamphlets, flyers and booklets.  Buttons and stickers
> >>>>> would be nice, tho.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Bob.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>> customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>> sell them and dont let it inside the country.
> >>>>>> And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in
> >>>>>> a
> >>>>>> collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>> Pablo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 2013/3/1 Randall Ross <randall at executiv.es>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about
> >>>>>>>> having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that
> >>>>>>>> this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to
> >>>>>>>> distribute
> >>>>>>>> every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly
> >>>>>>>> bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>> ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>> inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>> pressed DVD.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Alan.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds
> >>>>>>> used for
> >>>>>>> something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing
> >>>>>>> materials).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu
> >>>>>>> adoption. I
> >>>>>>> have also received comments from my local community about their
> >>>>>>> negative
> >>>>>>> environmental impact and I share those concerns.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>> Randall.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> loco-contacts mailing list
> >>>>>>> loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com
> >>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Alexandru Cucu
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >> Check out http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu and find out why it
> >> is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a
> >> newer version of your current system.
> >>
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