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Thats was the best motivational activity just like presentatation.<BR> <BR> So if possible we would like to receive any kind of promo material.<BR> <BR> On Sun, 2013-03-03 at 18:52 +0000, loco-contacts-request@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE> Send loco-contacts mailing list submissions to <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts-request@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts-request@lists.ubuntu.com</A> You can reach the person managing the list at <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</A> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of loco-contacts digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases (Pablo Rubianes) 2. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases (Laura Czajkowski) 3. Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases (Jos? Antonio Rey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:27:04 -0200 From: Pablo Rubianes <<A HREF="mailto:pablorubianes-uy@ubuntu.com">pablorubianes-uy@ubuntu.com</A>> To: <A HREF="mailto:jbongaerts@gmail.com">jbongaerts@gmail.com</A>, "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts" <<A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A>> Subject: Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases Message-ID: <<A HREF="mailto:CAHe_QgOu0+-WeQDV81QUtQKLQAF_WzyBHw+F+YCDQ08SWpV+4w@mail.gmail.com">CAHe_QgOu0+-WeQDV81QUtQKLQAF_WzyBHw+F+YCDQ08SWpV+4w@mail.gmail.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives will be a nightmare. Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of promotion. 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <<A HREF="mailto:jbongaerts@gmail.com">jbongaerts@gmail.com</A>> > +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in > our LoCo > > > On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman <<A HREF="mailto:dscassel@gmail.com">dscassel@gmail.com</A>> wrote: > >> Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. >> >> Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and >> (especially) brokerage fees. >> >> Darcy. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu <<A HREF="mailto:cracknel.org@gmail.com">cracknel.org@gmail.com</A>>wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves >>> with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be >>> able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be >>> written about 10 000 times. >>> >>> Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about >>> Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. >>> >>> >>> On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >>> >>>> I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a continuously >>>> updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. >>>> >>>> Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it >>>> installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. >>>> That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the >>>> same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now >>>> they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases would >>>> solve that problem. >>>> >>>> The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a >>>> legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. I >>>> carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for >>>> NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, &c. Passing out a burned disk >>>> scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't >>>> going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make >>>> bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be "live", so >>>> that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if Canonical >>>> were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK >>>> too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. >>>> >>>> I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with older >>>> computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but >>>> their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a >>>> NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release is >>>> installed immediately. >>>> >>>> So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to >>>> distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for "marketing >>>> materials" like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers >>>> would be nice, tho. >>>> >>>> --Bob. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos >>>>> have >>>>> customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going to >>>>> sell them and dont let it inside the country. >>>>> And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in a >>>>> collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Pablo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/3/1 Randall Ross <<A HREF="mailto:randall@executiv.es">randall@executiv.es</A>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about >>>>>>> having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that >>>>>>> this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to distribute >>>>>>> every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is a >>>>>>> good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly >>>>>>> bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as a >>>>>>> pressed DVD. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alan. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds >>>>>> used for >>>>>> something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing >>>>>> materials). >>>>>> >>>>>> In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu >>>>>> adoption. I >>>>>> have also received comments from my local community about their >>>>>> negative >>>>>> environmental impact and I share those concerns. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Randall. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >>>>>> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A><<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Alexandru Cucu >>> >>> >>> -- >>> loco-contacts mailing list >>> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >>> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A><<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> loco-contacts mailing list >> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A> >> >> > > > -- > Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? > Check out <A HREF="http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu">http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu</A> and find out why it > is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a > newer version of your current system. > > -- > loco-contacts mailing list > <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> > <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases Message-ID: <<A HREF="mailto:51339A01.7010705@lczajkowski.com">51339A01.7010705@lczajkowski.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 03/03/13 18:27, Pablo Rubianes wrote: > Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives > will be a nightmare. > Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as stickers, > lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of > promotion. > > > 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <<A HREF="mailto:jbongaerts@gmail.com">jbongaerts@gmail.com</A>> > >> +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards in >> our LoCo >> >> How does that differ from conference pack that is available to get any any time throughout the year - <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAtConferences</A> Is it these stickers folks are talking about ? - <A HREF="http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718">http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718</A> Laura -- Laura Czajkowski <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski</A> LoCo Council Member Community Council Member -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/attachments/20130303/b00315a7/attachment-0001.html">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/attachments/20130303/b00315a7/attachment-0001.html</A>> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:52:19 -0500 From: Jos? Antonio Rey <<A HREF="mailto:joseeantonior@ubuntu.com">joseeantonior@ubuntu.com</A>> To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts" <<A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A>> Subject: Re: DVD's or not? (was Re: Rrrrolling Rrreleases Message-ID: <<A HREF="mailto:CANh2YXNj0TGXtSaoZNL9FmyFT9dTd9=e5Z0w1KMdYsbwN-rkjQ@mail.gmail.com">CANh2YXNj0TGXtSaoZNL9FmyFT9dTd9=e5Z0w1KMdYsbwN-rkjQ@mail.gmail.com</A>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Same thing happens here. Luckily, Ubuntu-PE hasn't been having troubles with CDs/DVDs, but every time they're coming I have to fully explain what they're for. Having USB sticks sent would be a much more difficult thing, as Pablo said. Going back a bit on the thread, some people here still use the CDs/DVDs, as they have low bandwidth or even no Internet connection where they want to install. I would think stickers are a much more affordable and convenient way to *promote* Ubuntu. CDs and DVDs aren't used that much to promote, but they still serve as a way to demonstrate that you're giving something 'official' during events (in case you want to make some copies), or when you want to go and show it to universities, businesses, and others. -- Jos? Antonio Rey 2013/3/3, Pablo Rubianes <<A HREF="mailto:pablorubianes-uy@ubuntu.com">pablorubianes-uy@ubuntu.com</A>>: > Hi, i must say that if we have problems with DVDs/CDs at customs USB drives > will be a nightmare. > Also as Laura said languages are a problems, but promotional stuff as > stickers, > lanyard, keyrings or pens could be more productive like DVDs in terms of > promotion. > > > 2013/3/3 Jan Bongaerts <<A HREF="mailto:jbongaerts@gmail.com">jbongaerts@gmail.com</A>> > >> +1 on stickers or USB sticks. We actually are already selling USB cards >> in >> our LoCo >> >> >> On 3 March 2013 18:42, Darcy Casselman <<A HREF="mailto:dscassel@gmail.com">dscassel@gmail.com</A>> wrote: >> >>> Stickers are awesome. +1 stickers. Everybody loves stickers. >>> >>> Especially because they're much less likely to incur taxes, duties and >>> (especially) brokerage fees. >>> >>> Darcy. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Alexandru Cucu >>> <<A HREF="mailto:cracknel.org@gmail.com">cracknel.org@gmail.com</A>>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> An idea would be to have branded discs that we could write ourselves >>>> with the latest image. These could also be rewritable so users would be >>>> able to update them. Some manufacturers say that DVD-RW discs can be >>>> written about 10 000 times. >>>> >>>> Personally, I think stickers are better for spreading the word about >>>> Ubuntu. People almost never ask about discs these days. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 03/01/2013 07:43 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm in favour of rolling releases, but because it'll mean a >>>>> continuously >>>>> updated OS, not because it'll eliminate disks. >>>>> >>>>> Many people are running end-of-life versions of Ubuntu. They had it >>>>> installed years ago, and now their computers need a release upgrade. >>>>> That's not a problem for most people on this list, but these are the >>>>> same people who had one of us install Ubuntu in the first place. Now >>>>> they need to bring in someone to do the upgrade. Rolling releases >>>>> would >>>>> solve that problem. >>>>> >>>>> The branded disks are useful; they give some assurance that this is a >>>>> legitimate operating system, and not some pirated malware I've burned. >>>>> I >>>>> carry a few disks around with me, and give them away at write-ins for >>>>> NaNoWriMo, LUG meetings, hackathons, &c. Passing out a burned disk >>>>> scrawled with a sharpie won't be accepatable, and those people aren't >>>>> going to have a thumbdrive with them that can be erased to make >>>>> bootable. For those people it's important that the disks be "live", so >>>>> that people can try Ubuntu without commitment. Of course, if >>>>> Canonical >>>>> were to distribute branded USB keys instead of disks that would be OK >>>>> too, but I don't think that removes the environmental concerns. >>>>> >>>>> I'm also recommending Ubuntu to people who have had problems with >>>>> older >>>>> computers. Their version of Windows 98 has finally packed it in, but >>>>> their computers don't boot from USB and have no DVD. For those a >>>>> NetInstall disk would work nicely, so that the latest rolling release >>>>> is >>>>> installed immediately. >>>>> >>>>> So I hope Canonical changes to rolling releases, and also continues to >>>>> distribute disks or USB keys. But I have no use for "marketing >>>>> materials" like pamphlets, flyers and booklets. Buttons and stickers >>>>> would be nice, tho. >>>>> >>>>> --Bob. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 13-03-01 11:03 AM, Pablo Rubianes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> +1 to Randall marketing materials are better than Dvds as many LoCos >>>>>> have >>>>>> customs problems to pass the Dvds as the customs thinks we are going >>>>>> to >>>>>> sell them and dont let it inside the country. >>>>>> And nowadays get your iso from internet is quite easy, Dvds end up in >>>>>> a >>>>>> collection of Dvds from Ubuntu instead of install and pass the Dvd >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> Pablo >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/3/1 Randall Ross <<A HREF="mailto:randall@executiv.es">randall@executiv.es</A>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13-03-01 06:50 AM, Alan Bell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as you have probably seen there has been discussion opened up about >>>>>>>> having a rolling release between the LTS releases. My guess is that >>>>>>>> this means the approved LoCo teams would get a CD pack to >>>>>>>> distribute >>>>>>>> every two years rather than every 6 months. Anyone know if this is >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> good guess, and does anyone have an opinion on this? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally I am fine with that, it would be good to have a slightly >>>>>>>> bigger shipment of desktop DVDs every two years (I have no idea why >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> ever press the Server CDs) distributing them every 6 months is kind >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> inefficient, this way the LTS will have more long term relevance as >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> pressed DVD. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Alan. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like to see DVD media phased out totally, and the funds >>>>>>> used for >>>>>>> something that will help spread Ubuntu more quickly. (e.g. marketing >>>>>>> materials). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my experience free CD's/DVD's no longer help drive Ubuntu >>>>>>> adoption. I >>>>>>> have also received comments from my local community about their >>>>>>> negative >>>>>>> environmental impact and I share those concerns. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Randall. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>>>>> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >>>>>>> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A><<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Alexandru Cucu >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> loco-contacts mailing list >>>> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >>>> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A><<A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> loco-contacts mailing list >>> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >>> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have you tried Ubuntu Linux yet? >> Check out <A HREF="http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu">http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-use-ubuntu</A> and find out why it >> is a better option than trying to upgrade your hardware to accomodate a >> newer version of your current system. >> >> -- >> loco-contacts mailing list >> <A HREF="mailto:loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com">loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com</A> >> <A HREF="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts</A> >> >> > ------------------------------ </PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>