LoCo Directory developers would like some input

Laura Czajkowski laura at lczajkowski.com
Thu Mar 25 16:12:05 GMT 2010


Can you please add the comments to the bug so we can have all of the
comments in one place when we make a decision. 

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/531970

Laura
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--------- Original Message --------
From: Ubuntu local community team LoCo contacts
<loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
To: Ubuntu local community team LoCo contacts
<loco-contacts at lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: LoCo Directory developers would like some input
Date: 25/03/10 16:07

> Whats the potential of just letting the event organizer enter the time
> with timezone, then store that value in the DB as UTC along with the
> timezone that it was entered against. Then when a user visits the page
> use Javascript and Ajax to store against that users session there
> timezone, and just change out all the times to display as there
> timezone. And just as a safety for when you don't know a users
> timezone. ie the initial request to the site. Just display the time in
> the timezone that it was entered against. Just make sure to include
> the TZ info when displaying the time.
> 
> This does add a bit of work on a developer side but does benefit event
> organizers and anyone browsing the site.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Dan Trevino &lt;dantrevino at gmail.com&gt;
wrote:
> &gt; On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Laura Czajkowski
&lt;laura at lczajkowski.com&gt; wrote:
> &gt;&gt; Aloha!
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; As many of you know the LoCo directory is up and running and with
that
> &gt;&gt; is the events section.  Many teams have added their Global Jam
details
> &gt;&gt; to it, well done it's looking great!  I'm posting here as the
developers
> &gt;&gt; would like some feed back on the below issue, I've included the
bug this
> &gt;&gt; related to, please, please add your comments to the bug if you
have any
> &gt;&gt; thoughts on it.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Currently, team event times in loco.ubuntu.com are treated as
local time
> &gt;&gt; for the location of the event. However, loco.ubuntu.com itself
runs on
> &gt;&gt; UTC time.
> &gt;&gt; This poses a problem when we try to calculate &quot;past&quot; or
&quot;future&quot; events,
> &gt;&gt; as we don't necessarily know what timezone offset the local event
is using.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; The simplest solution, from a development perspective, is to
threat team
> &gt;&gt; event times as UTC time, not the team's local time. However,
there is
> &gt;&gt; concern that this will be inconvenient or overly burdensome on
event
> &gt;&gt; organizers and attendees.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; The must user friendly solution will require calculating
timezones based
> &gt;&gt; on venue data, or requiring the user to specify the timezone for
each
> &gt;&gt; event themselves.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; This will require significant code changes on the back end.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Our question to the community is, what would be the impact on
your use
> &gt;&gt; of loco.ubuntu.com for planning local events, if times were
entered and
> &gt;&gt; displayed in UTC,instead of local time. If the burden is not
great, we
> &gt;&gt; will do that. If the burden is enough to significantly impact
usage, we
> &gt;&gt; will go the more difficult (for us) route.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; The bug that we are discussing is
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Please add all of your comments to this bug!
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Laura
> &gt;&gt;
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> &gt;&gt;
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> &gt;&gt; http://www.lczajkowski.com
> &gt;&gt; Skype: lauraczajkowski
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; The target audience for this needs to see local times.
> &gt;
> &gt; Just thinking out loud here, each of the LoCo teams should already be
> &gt; associated with one-to-many timezone(s).  Why not just ask the event
> &gt; creator to specify it?
> &gt;
> &gt; For my case, when I create a new event for Florida, I should see a
> &gt; drop down with two timezones, Eastern and Central.  California or
> &gt; France or India may not see the drop down because they only have one.
> &gt;
> &gt; If nobody wants to go through the small data entry task of entering
> &gt; teams and their associated TZ, then just allow the team admin(s) to
> &gt; select default timezone(s) available for their team.
> &gt;
> &gt; Dan
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