Fwd: re update firefox 9 to 11

[ray burke]

On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:02 PM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 13/05/12 07:45, ray burke wrote:
>>
>> Sinclair,
>>
>> well how do you think I can fix  my problem?
>
> If you want to upgrade Firefox but stay on 10.10 I recommend you check
> Firefox download for linux and try install the latest version.
>
> http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all.html
>
> there are numerous how-to regarding installation, here is one:
> http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/Installing%20Firefox%20on%20Linux
>
>
>
>>
>> ray
>>
>> On 5/12/12, O. Sinclair<o.sinclair at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/05/12 09:09, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/05/12 16:15, O. Sinclair wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/05/12 07:57, Basil Chupin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/05/12 07:43, ray burke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: ray burke<rayburke30 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 06:39:18 +1000
>>>>>>> Subject: re update firefox 9 to 11
>>>>>>> To: kubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone help please-
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I the other day update thru kpackagekit in my k 10.10 firefox 11, but
>>>>>>> after i rebooted and started ff11 when
>>>>>>> i went online it kept crashing ,and sent a report, then tried 11
>>>>>>> attempts but still crashed, so I clonned back to my
>>>>>>> k10.10mm backup which was clonned on 23/4/12, and again using ff9, so
>>>>>>> how do I stop it updating to ff11,
>>>>>>> showing within my kpakagekit? see attached
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I read what you say above correctly, you are still using v10.10 of
>>>>>> Kubuntu, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If so then you ought to know that support by Canonical for 10.10
>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>> in April - and it is now May. (You would have received and e-mail
>>>>>> advising you about the EOL of 10.10 some time ago.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should be upgrading to at least the next version of Kubuntu, which
>>>>>> is 11.04 - but keep it mind that this 11.04 will reach EOL (End Of
>>>>>> Life)
>>>>>> this coming October - ie, in 5 months time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You should also know that Firefox is now currently at version 12
>>>>>> (officially - but unofficially at v15 if you use the knightly builds).
>>>>>> The upgrades since v9 which you are running contain many fixes
>>>>>> including
>>>>>> security fixes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore you would be wise to upgrade your Kubuntu which would also
>>>>>> upgrade your Firefox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BC
>>>>>>
>>>>> Wise or not wise could depend on hardware and other issues. In my
>>>>> experience older hardware do better with older versions of linux. That
>>>>> has actually been confirmed by tests done by Phoronix where "sandy
>>>>> bridge" et al do better with 12.04 but hardware older than that do
>>>>> better with 10.10.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I would say (and I live by this rule myself): don't upgrade what
>>>>> works for the user. I have 3 laptops in the house and there is no
>>>>> question about it: the older ones run happier on older releases. The
>>>>> newest will not even work (graphic driver issues) on anything older
>>>>> than 11.04.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a word on "it is always better to upgrade". Nope it aint,
>>>>> upgrades can break working software/hardware relations. Linux may be
>>>>> brilliant but regressions are not exactly uncommon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Until just a few weeks ago - when I built for myself a new 64-bit system
>>>> - I was using a 32-bit system which I built ~7 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> In that period I have used/installed quite a number of Linux distros and
>>>> have never really had any hassles with any of them. Sure, when trying
>>>> out some beta, or something earlier, then I could get into a hassle - as
>>>> expected when you dealing with something like a beta - but nothing was
>>>> ever "fatal"; annoying yes, but not "fatal".
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it could be said that for some 7 years I led a 'magical' life
>>>> with little problems re Linux software - ESPECIALLY as I am a
>>>> "always-keeping-up-to-date" freak. If it is the latest, I will install
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> While you are correct in saying that, "If it ain't broke don't fix it",
>>>> you surely have to acknowledge that when a system is declared as no
>>>> longer supported and that some application has been upgraded because of
>>>> security (and other) reasons then it is time to "move with the times"
>>>> and install the latest software?
>>>>
>>>> Or are you happy to argue that running Kubuntu version 5.04 is quite
>>>> acceptable? Or having Windows 3.1.1 still acceptable to run by those who
>>>> are MS zealots?
>>>>
>>>> The OP said that he is running Kubuntu 10.10 which has now reached its
>>>> EOL. He is also using Firefox 9 (latest version 12, with 15.0.x being
>>>> tested). And with this combination he is having problems.
>>>>
>>>> He may be having hassles because what he tried to update did not agree
>>>> with the now unsupported Kubuntu 10.10. I don't really know, but it is a
>>>> possibility.
>>>>
>>>> To find which is the case he should upgrade from Kubuntu 10.10 - and see
>>>> if his system cannot handle it; in which case he can then decide why
>>>> this is so and ask questions about how to go about solving his problem.
>>>> I say this because I don't believe that Ray can be using such an ancient
>>>> computer which could not handle something like Kubuntu v 11.04 at least.
>>>> If it now handling 10.10 then it can handle 11.04.
>>>>
>>>
>>> this is kind of a philosophical discussion but for starters the Windows
>>> 3.1 can not be compared to *buntu 10.10. It is more than 10 years
>>> between them. However, if I still had a 80286 pc somewhere I would not
>>> throw anything newer than w95 at it.
>>>
>>> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA3ODQ
>>> states what I am hinting at. For "older" computers (in this case more
>>> than 2 years) you are better off with older versions of the distro. I
>>> have a Dell Inspiron 6400 that runs slick on 10.10 and get various
>>> graphic driver issues with newer distros. I currently own a HP laptop
>>> that can not be used with anything older than 11.04 due to hardware
>>> (again the bloody graphics) issues.
>>>
>>> Security is only one part of the formula. Any linux distro is better
>>> than most version of Windows at whatever age. Updating to later versions
>>> of Open/Libre office and Firefox or Chrome can be done via their
>>> download sites, repositories are not the only way of upgrading
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> So my oldest stays on 10.10 "no matter what" because then it operates
>>> nicely. Newer versions chokes it and I do not have the energy to try out
>>> x number of distros that might be better suited for the hardware. The
>>> newest lappy is now on 12.04 and from how it looks might stay on that as
>>> now "almost everything" works as can be expected from the hardware.
>>>
>>> If I ever buy a Ivy or Sandy or something a newer release will likely be
>>> needed.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Sinclair
>>>
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Sinclair,

No I want to stay with 9.0?

ray